Indonesia to execute six drug offenders

[CapnAwesome]

I guess it depends on what you mean by minimally developed. I wouldn't really call China minimally developed. Singapore is another first world country that comes to mind.

No. China has economical growth, but not so much when it comes to development. Check out this distinction (It's actually the first search on google but it's accurate)

To be super succinct, growth depends on your GDP; development depends on your human development index - China is better on the former, but it isn't considered very developed compared to other western or even asian (I'm thinking Japan) standards.

I think China is ranked 90 or 91 in HDI, it's not much.

Well that puts China slightly above average in terms of the entire world. While maybe it's too much nitpicking of language I'd hardly call them 'minimally' developed. Same goes for Saudi Arabia, another execution friendly place. They are the wealthiest country in their immediate region except for Israel. People always want to say that the US compares poorly to developed or first world countries but in reality there are very few first world countries. There is the United States, Canada, The European Union, Japan, South Korea, Israel, Singapore..... Not much else really. It's just a matter of putting the cut off point where you want it to to make the US look out of place. In reality the US executed only 34 people in 2014 (http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/execution-list-2014), all for aggravated or multiple murders. Whether or not you find capital punishment to be an absolute moral wrong, that's way different than executing people for non-violent drug offenses.

[Minimalist]

In reality the US executed only 34 people in 2014

You're leaving out all the ones simply gunned down by cops. Granted, a few of them may have been guilty, but none went to trial.

[Regina]

China is by far the highest and I think executes over 1000 people per year.

With that being said though, in a country with 1.4 billion it's not like anyone would notice. teehee.

America might be the most in terms of having a larger percentage of the population executed than China (there's probably a better way to word that but I am drained right now).

My views on this Indonesia thing. I don't too much care if it's "their law", drug traffic is a massive black market trade in that part of the world, and all too often innocent tourists get caught with drugs that locals/other tourists slip into their luggage. If you get executed because someone slipped something in your bag, yes the international community has grounds to criticise their system. I don't necessarily agree with legalising all drugs (I agree with legalising softer ones like Cannibis) but at any rate the death penalty for drugs is absolutely austere and unjustifiable in my opinion.

[CapnAwesome]

Right, of course I have option C. Don't go to any country where fucking Muslims are in charge of making the laws.

Agreed....although I suspect we here in the good ole US of A execute more people than Indonesia.

In fact, Amnesty International issued a report showing that we were consistently in the top 5...with such luminaries as China, N. Korea, Iran and Yemen.

Indonesia did not make the list.

As the friendly forum fact checker, I of course had to look into this. http://www.theguardian.com/world/datablo...by-country

So the US is 9th but only if you don't adjust for per capita,in which case they are near the bottom of countries that actually carry out the death penalty. Also of not unimportant note is that all the executions in the United States were for murder.

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In reality the US executed only 34 people in 2014

You're leaving out all the ones simply gunned down by cops. Granted, a few of them may have been guilty, but none went to trial.

Oh for sure it's the bigger problem. Even if you consider the death penalty to be immoral (I think life in prison is morally similar to the death penalty anyway) by far the larger problem is police killing people. 34 people were executed in 2015 in the United States, all of whom were convicted murderers. Where as in one month (August) of 2015 105 people were killed by cops, many of whom had committed no crime at all. In that statistic the US compares super unfavorably to just about everyone.

[Thumpalumpacus]

Says someone from Texas?

Arizona.


(I know....almost as fucked up but we take some solace in the 'almost' part.)

Fucking Christ, if I owned Hell and Arizona, I'd live in Hell, and rent Arizona out.

Give me Texas any day of the week!

[Minimalist]

We have a new republicunt shithead of a governor who would probably agree with you.

[Thumpalumpacus]

We have a new republicunt shithead of a governor who would probably agree with you.

Please do not send him here, we're overstaffed.

[c172]

https://au.prime7.yahoo.com/a1/news/a/-/...execution/

Australian drug smugglers Andrew Chan and Myuran Sukumaran have arrived on the prison island where they are scheduled to face the firing squad.

The men were taken out of Bali's Kerobokan prison in a police armoured vehicle before dawn this morning.

Photographs released by AAP news agency then appeared to show Chan, 31, and Sukumaran, 33, being manhandled onto a chartered plane at Bali's Denpasar airport.

The men were taken off the plane in Java and taken to the port of Cilacap, where they were put on a ferry for the short journey to the Nusakambangan island prison where they are due to be executed.

The date when they will face the firing squad is yet to be announced, but Indonesia's attorney-general is required to give them 72 hours' notice.

[Minimalist]

The bastards running the "justice system" in the US aren't much better.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/03/louis...th-of-pot/

Louisiana man gets life in prison for selling $20 worth of pot

[psychoslice]

Its their own fault, they knew what would happen and they took the gamble, and so they should pay for their gamble.