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January 24, 2015 at 9:41 am (This post was last modified: January 24, 2015 at 9:43 am by dyresand.)
i seen a documentary on this and well... i remember it talked about 3 people died from snake bites and they still kept the damn thing.
(January 24, 2015 at 2:24 am)Huggy74 Wrote: Remember the discussion about True Christians versus the fake ones
Matthew 15:9
But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
There is a part in the Bible where Satan tries to get Jesus to jump off a mountain because it was written that "the angels shall bear thee up in their hands, lest thou dash thy foot against a stone." and Jesus reply was that "it is also written thou shalt not tempt (test) the Lord thy God."
Matthew 7:21
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
Clearly it is not God's will to be tested.
It's not even gods will at all idiots wanted to hold and talk to a snake they pay the price for doing so. There is no reason to bring bible verses up they wanted to talk to a snake, snakes get pissed off rather easily they bite people. What that pastor should have done is gotten its fangs pulled out and the sack removed.
January 24, 2015 at 9:56 am (This post was last modified: January 24, 2015 at 9:57 am by Spooky.)
(January 24, 2015 at 9:41 am)dyresand Wrote: i seen a documentary on this and well... i remember it talked about 3 people died from snake bites and they still kept the damn thing.
(January 24, 2015 at 2:24 am)Huggy74 Wrote: Remember the discussion about True Christians versus the fake ones
Matthew 15:9
But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
There is a part in the Bible where Satan tries to get Jesus to jump off a mountain because it was written that "the angels shall bear thee up in their hands, lest thou dash thy foot against a stone." and Jesus reply was that "it is also written thou shalt not tempt (test) the Lord thy God."
Matthew 7:21
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
Clearly it is not God's will to be tested.
It's not even gods will at all idiots wanted to hold and talk to a snake they pay the price for doing so. There is no reason to bring bible verses up they wanted to talk to a snake, snakes get pissed off rather easily they bite people. What that pastor should have done is gotten its fangs pulled out and the sack removed.
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That's something I noticed too. They all keep dying but they shrug it off as "God's will". WTH
Edit: There's a scene in the simpsons where Moe Sizlack states "I was born a snake handler, and I'll die a snake handler"
(January 24, 2015 at 9:41 am)dyresand Wrote: i seen a documentary on this and well... i remember it talked about 3 people died from snake bites and they still kept the damn thing.
(January 24, 2015 at 2:24 am)Huggy74 Wrote: Remember the discussion about True Christians versus the fake ones
Matthew 15:9
But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
There is a part in the Bible where Satan tries to get Jesus to jump off a mountain because it was written that "the angels shall bear thee up in their hands, lest thou dash thy foot against a stone." and Jesus reply was that "it is also written thou shalt not tempt (test) the Lord thy God."
Matthew 7:21
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
Clearly it is not God's will to be tested.
It's not even gods will at all idiots wanted to hold and talk to a snake they pay the price for doing so. There is no reason to bring bible verses up they wanted to talk to a snake, snakes get pissed off rather easily they bite people. What that pastor should have done is gotten its fangs pulled out and the sack removed.
That's something I noticed too. They all keep dying but they shrug it off as "God's will". WTH
Edit: There's a scene in the simpsons where Moe Sizlack states "I was born a snake handler, and I'll die a snake handler"
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I remember that episode and also theists that handle snakes are not even adults at all more like grown up children who are like... "see this snake lets talk to it maybe it can give us the word of god". Its not even gods will or any will for that matter that those people died. Just let the snake go of its own accord and leave him be simple as that.
(January 24, 2015 at 2:35 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: Second Timothy 3:16
Exactly,
"They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them;'
In other words, if you happen to get bitten by accident, like Paul did for example, that scripture applies. But the Bible also clearly states not to "test" God.
January 24, 2015 at 3:12 pm (This post was last modified: January 24, 2015 at 3:13 pm by Spooky.)
(January 24, 2015 at 3:01 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:
(January 24, 2015 at 2:35 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: Second Timothy 3:16
Exactly,
"They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them;'
In other words, if you happen to get bitten by accident, like Paul did for example, that scripture applies. But the Bible also clearly states not to "test" God.
Yet Gideon and Elijah just get a pass.
Why, why not try it? Have we found the limits of somebody's faith?
(January 24, 2015 at 3:01 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: In other words, if you happen to get bitten by accident, like Paul did for example, that scripture applies. But the Bible also clearly states not to "test" God.
Mybold
The trouble with this is that the holy writ doesn't specify what constitutes a "test."
Is it to demand a specific vision/outcome/event?
Or can a test be anything the result of which confirms the existence of God? e.g. babble fish.
Keep it vague and you can square any event as being confirmation of God.
This is the same non-specificity that protects prayer from dis-confirmation as the answer yes/no/wait covers all cases.
So how, exactly, does God know that She's NOT a brain in a vat?
Kinda debases his position though, especially after I saw the India Indians handling cobras.
Really.
If Bible scripture proposes a 'test' or sign, and the brethren and cistern fail the test or don't show the sign, BUT another faith does, what the fuck am I to conclude ??
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