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I need major help with my Christian Family
#31
RE: I need major help with my Christian Family
Quote:What if you're wrong and the God of the Bible is exactly who He says He is.

We can safely dismiss that, G-C. That kind of shit is for morons like you.
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#32
RE: I need major help with my Christian Family
Read the bible. The bible is the craziest, most morally screwed up books ever written. Reading it will not only make you an atheist but be a powerful weapon against Christians. Many Christians have no idea what their holy book says
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#33
RE: I need major help with my Christian Family
(February 8, 2015 at 11:05 pm)Godschild Wrote: What if you're wrong and the God of the Bible is exactly who He says He is. You then come here and ask for advice from these people, don't you know that doing so will deepen their troubles with God if they respond to you. Do you really want that responsibility, do you want to meet God with that against you. You will never be able to prove the God of the Bible doesn't exist, none of the people here have been able to, I've been here 5 years and no one scrap of evidence, let lone proof.

GC

What if YOU are wrong GC?
1) What if Odin is real instead of YHWH?
2) What if one of the thousands of other christian denominations have the right path to salvation?
3) What if one of the millions of other religions are correct?
4) What if the atheists are correct?

If any of these are true, you would basically have wasted your life and are essentially screwed.

Regarding meeting your god f2f, we are pretty sure that's a bad idea either way. And if we are wrong and your version+interpretation of the bible is indeed true, then considering the description of the lunatic YHWH we have so far, and considering that heaven is supposedly a place filled with mindless man-babies singing praises for the said lunatic 24/7, and since after death we can't feel pain anyway, hell is a preferable option.

And lastly, on the front of evidence, you haven't produced any evidence whatsoever in support of your god claims....at least professor and MK are trying in their own cute ways. It's your claim, so it's up to you to produce evidence. Till you do so, stop threatening minors!
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#34
RE: I need major help with my Christian Family
You could of had a worse family than what you already have, so count yourself lucky.
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#35
RE: I need major help with my Christian Family
(February 8, 2015 at 11:34 pm)Homeless Nutter Wrote:
(February 8, 2015 at 11:05 pm)Godschild Wrote: What if you're wrong and the God of the Bible is exactly who He says He is. You then come here and ask for advice from these people, don't you know that doing so will deepen their troubles with God if they respond to you. Do you really want that responsibility, do you want to meet God with that against you. You will never be able to prove the God of the Bible doesn't exist, none of the people here have been able to, I've been here 5 years and no one scrap of evidence, let lone proof.

GC

What if the Christian god is not the real god? What if the real god hates Christians and other suck-ups and hypocrites? Do you want to stand before god, admitting that you've been consciously worshipping false idols, like Jesus? I've never seen a shred of proof that the Christian version of afterlife is the "true" one. Because Allah may be pretty p***ed off, that you've WILLFULLY ignored his Quran. Not to mention Joseph Smith, Manitou, Vishnu, Krishna, Yahwe and countless others.
Yeah - Pascal's Wager only works on dumb people who don't understand probabilities...

I think one is better of living as a honest person and not believe in any of the scams until there is at least some reason to choose one over the other, because they're all equally ridiculous and they contradict each other every step of the way (in most cases they even contradict themselves).

Yes. I am the real god, and I am really pissed off at those Christians in their idolatry. There is a special place in Hell for them, that is extra hot. I will do worse things to them than are depicted in the film Salò. But they will receive all of those punishments in the beginning of their time in Hell, so you can watch that film to get a taste of what will happen to you if you are a Christian. (In my divine wisdom, I inspired Pasolini to show you what would happen to you, in order to get people to reject the evil idolatrous religion of Christianity. You have been warned, so do not pretend to have not known what would happen to you.)

Now, most of you probably think this isn't true. But what if you are wrong..... To be safe, you had better completely and totally reject Christianity.

(February 9, 2015 at 12:19 am)Nope Wrote: Read the bible. The bible is the craziest, most morally screwed up books ever written. Reading it will not only make you an atheist but be a powerful weapon against Christians. Many Christians have no idea what their holy book says

Yes. Take a look at:

http://skepticsannotatedbible.com

When looking at the lists of contradictions or whatever, I suggest that you carefully read the Bible at those places, to make sure that the authors of that site have not overstated anything at that point. Sometimes they get a bit carried away, but it is still a very useful site for finding all sorts of interesting bits of the "good book."

"A wise man ... proportions his belief to the evidence."
— David Hume, An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding, Section X, Part I.
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#36
RE: I need major help with my Christian Family
(February 8, 2015 at 11:05 pm)Godschild Wrote:
(February 8, 2015 at 8:32 am)coolfunkDJ Wrote:
I need help

I have been brought up in religion since I was born, and im now 14 years of age, I have left religion because I started thinking about God, and if, he did really love us then why did he flood us, and if he didnt care about flooding us, why didnt he kill Adam And Eve?

Anyway so one thing led to another but here is where I need help, I tell my family im agnostic in ways (Because I dont wanna tell them im athies) and now, more than ever, they're trying to force me to attend christian conventions and go to church and I just want to scream no, but I really don't want to upset my parents, it would make me feel guilty

What should I do? Should I tell them im athiest, because I feel like they will force it upon me more if I do, or should I keep quiet! Please! Respond!

What if you're wrong and the God of the Bible is exactly who He says He is. You then come here and ask for advice from these people, don't you know that doing so will deepen their troubles with God if they respond to you. Do you really want that responsibility, do you want to meet God with that against you. You will never be able to prove the God of the Bible doesn't exist, none of the people here have been able to, I've been here 5 years and no one scrap of evidence, let lone proof.

GC

Well if that is true, then I can burn in hell, honestly, according to the bible, God is a serial killer and kind of a douche, I realise this now
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#37
RE: I need major help with my Christian Family
(February 9, 2015 at 3:57 am)coolfunkDJ Wrote: Well if that is true, then I can burn in hell, honestly, according to the bible, God is a serial killer and kind of a douche, I realise this now

Now, now - Dexter was a serial killer. And he was awesome (except for the last season or 2). God is - according to the believers - a genocidal maniac, who's been running "tests" on billions of helpless human beings. He's basically doctor Mengele, only orders of magnitude more despicable, because at least Nazis didn't require their victims to thank them for the tortures...
"The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one." - George Bernard Shaw
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#38
RE: I need major help with my Christian Family
(February 8, 2015 at 11:05 pm)Godschild Wrote: What if you're wrong and the God of the Bible is exactly who He says He is. You then come here and ask for advice from these people, don't you know that doing so will deepen their troubles with God if they respond to you. Do you really want that responsibility, do you want to meet God with that against you. You will never be able to prove the God of the Bible doesn't exist, none of the people here have been able to, I've been here 5 years and no one scrap of evidence, let lone proof.

GC

GC you are one dishonest dude. We shoot down your crazy god imaginations nearly daily on the basis of irrationality but because we can't find videotape of Moses admitting it was all a hoax, you claim we don't have evidence. It doesn't seem to register to you that you are the one without evidence.

I don't have evidence that Spongebob Squarepants doesn't live at the bottom of the sea either, but I do have evidence that sponges are immobile primitive creatures that wouldn't be logically able to prance around a fish city making annoying noises and roasting marshmallows over an underwater campfire.

If your god is real, active, and vengeful as portrayed in your little black book, then I find it curious that no matter how I goad and blaspheme, I can't get him to strike me dead. Furthermore, you also know the diseased senile goat necrophiliac you call "god" is too impotent to do anything to me at all without human help, and you bank on the hope that when I am at my weakest point, completely dead,that then and only then can your god punish me for calling him a "pimple on a rat's ass."
It is the most pathetic of wishful thinking for a christian. A dead animal is just dead. When we die we stop thinking and our consciousness is gone.
There is no evidence at all for any magic afterlife world that the religions make such a fuss over. None at all. There is no evidence of any gods in the real living world either, and a crazy guy like that would be very noticeable.
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#39
RE: I need major help with my Christian Family
I'd say go to the conventions. Study the bible. Learn what you can now. This fervor will be mistaken for belief. It's not. But it will be useful knowledge someday when you are defending your lack of belief.

Knowledge is Power.
I reject your reality and substitute my own!
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#40
RE: I need major help with my Christian Family
(February 8, 2015 at 11:05 pm)Godschild Wrote: What if you're wrong and the God of the Bible is exactly who He says He is. You then come here and ask for advice from these people, don't you know that doing so will deepen their troubles with God if they respond to you. Do you really want that responsibility, do you want to meet God with that against you. You will never be able to prove the God of the Bible doesn't exist, none of the people here have been able to, I've been here 5 years and no one scrap of evidence, let lone proof.

GC

What if you're wrong and Scientology is exactly what L Ron Hubbard says it is. You then come here and ask for advice from these people, don't you know that doing so will deepen their troubles with body thetans if they respond to you. Do you really want that responsibility, you will never become OT7 with that against you. You will never be able to prove body thetans and Xenu don't exist, none of the people here have been able to, I've been here 2 years and no one scrap of evidence, let lone proof.

JHC

ps - psssssst!!! Xenu was framed! Pass it on.
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