Does God follow his WORD? Or is it --- do as I say and not as I do?

[dyresand]

The judgement against god.

It is apparent that all of the humans whose acts are described in the summaries from my selected Books of the Old Testament, as stated above, (Moses, Joshua, etc.) are all long dead. Thus, it only remains to us to pass judgment upon God.

Once jurisdiction is admitted (or proven, by the foregoing argument), there cannot be any doubt about the ultimate judgment. Nuremberg is still too fresh in the memories of humanity for any such doubt to exist. The Old Testament records multiple incidents where God ordered the Jews to commit atrocities that constitute crimes under the Principles, as stated above. According to the Principles, God must be found to be guilty of crimes against peace, war crimes, and crimes against humanity.

God committed crimes against peace by violating his "non-aggression pact" with mankind after the flood (Genesis 8:21.); while he didn't destroy "every living thing" ever again, he did destroy every living member of certain tribes of humans. And God committed crimes against peace by mounting wars of aggression, using his Jewish troops to invade otherwise-peaceful territory then belonging to other people.

God committed war crimes by ordering the murder of people not engaged in armed resistance against the Jews; by deporting people to slave labor, working for the Jews; by murder (or ill-treatment) of prisoners of war; by plundering public and private property; by wanton destruction of entire cities, towns, or villages; and by devastation not justified by military necessity.

Many of the same facts convict God of crimes against humanity, in that he ordered the murder (or extermination) of entire populations of people; the enslavement of human female virgins; and other inhuman acts done against civilian populations, all done in execution of (or in connection with) the aforementioned crimes against peace or war crimes.

The God of the Torah is a beast; reflecting the beastly state of human morality several thousands of years ago. We should not be surprised to find God convicted of crime under modern-day moral standards, agreed to by the vast bulk of modern governments.

Of course, the reality of the situation is that we have tried God in absentia, because (we atheists would assert) God does not exist. Believers have long recognized that the Argument from Evil was one of the strongest arguments against theism. Well, holding God to the very moral standards that His believers have agreed to impose upon each other ultimately seems to be a fitting end for Him. There do not appear to be any valid arguments for believers to use to escape the consequences of this rather simple moral argument against God. As compared to the Argument from Evil, this argument would appear to be much stronger due to its far greater simplicity.

TL-DR the fucker is GUILTY

src- http://infidels.org/library/modern/bill_...d.html#JAG

[Greatest I am]

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Good find. Thanks for this.

Regards
DL

[dyresand]

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Good find. Thanks for this.

Regards
DL

No problem at all

[Nope]

I come back to this and I can't help it.
Your rant (admit it) from this perspective is a roar.
On Job (who preceded Moses by a long time)- (I am going to give you a paraphrase)

God to Satan- "Have you seen my servant Job? There is none like him".

Satan- "Does he serve you for nothing? You bless him coming and going, but take away his goodies and he will curse you to your face".

God- look dummy, he is in your hand right know and you don't realize it. (Job was very fearful, making sacrifices for his kids and who knows what else- fear is the opposite of faith, and fear puts one IN the devil's playground) Only spare his life.
Satan and his minions inspired enemies to attack, Job was attacked with boils.

Job passed that test.
Every one of us are tested. This life is a test.
Here is a test of another kind- get off your platform for a moment, and humbly ask the God of Heaven the very question this post began with.
(Drich isn't here right now, so I will fill in for him).

On Moses, God does not deal lightly with rebellion- He indicates it is the same as witchcraft and the first rebellion was Satan's.
The people who left Egypt SAW what happened to the pharaoh and the Egyptians.
They had an eyeful, yet planned a mutiny.
You history buffs know what happens to mutineers.

At first I honestly thought that this was written by a fellow atheist explaining why god is evil

[Thumpalumpacus]

I think it's pretty clear that you're not thirsty.
We can lead GC to evidence but we cannot make him take his fingers out of his ears and stop singing "lalala I can't hear you".

You can lead an ass to water, but you cannot make him think.

[Fidel_Castronaut]

You can lead a horse losty.

Only stupid people lead horses to water, when ones thirst they'll go themselves.

GC

Thats the stupidest thing I've ever read, given the context and meaning of the idiom.

[robvalue]

Here's a short clip about how confusing god's instructions can be. God is played here by a GI Joe skier.

http://youtu.be/DXFdPTaCtkc

[Greatest I am]

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Good find. Thanks for this.

Regards
DL

No problem at all

I hope you are spreading your talent and opinions in many sites.

Every atheist that does is putting more nails into our misogynous and homophobic mainstream religions.

The moral thing to do for all atheists.

Regards
DL

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Only stupid people lead horses to water, when ones thirst they'll go themselves.

GC

Thats the stupidest thing I've ever read, given the context and meaning of the idiom.

You forget your own Bible. The way you read it is the dumbest way.

Faith closes the mind. It is pure idol worship.

Faith is a way to quit using, "God given" power of Reason and Logic, and cause the faithful to embrace doctrines that moral people reject.

The God of the OT says, “Come now, and let us reason together,” [Isaiah 1:18]

How can literalists reason with God when they must ignore reason and logic and discard them when turning into literalist?

Those who are literalists can only reply somewhat in the fashion that Martin Luther did.
“Faith must trample under foot all reason, sense, and understanding.”
“Reason is a whore, the greatest enemy that faith has.”

This attitude effectively kills all worthy communication that non-theists can have with theist. Faith closes the mind as it is pure idol worship.

Literalism is an evil practice that hides the true messages of myths. We cannot show our faith based friends that they are wrong through their faith colored glasses. Their faith also plugs their ears.

Regards
DL

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Here's a short clip about how confusing god's instructions can be. God is played here by a GI Joe skier.

A good representation of the Biblical facts.

Have a look at this one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmD9ZWDU...e=youtu.be


Regards
DL

[Smaug]

If we consider abrahamic faiths there's no reason for God to follow his own rules at all times. Why do so if you're in total control? If we consider the fact that God is at least somewhat similar to people (who were created in His image) and that there were no external reasons to create a world then the only reason why He created it was boredom. Think about it. You had been bored and created a 'strategic game' with some pretty sophisticated A.I. for yourself. You can sympathise with the 'npc's' to some extent and keep the 'game' or get frustrated or bored again and scrap it. Or just leave it alone and create a new one. But there's no reason to bound yourself with the rules.

[Thumpalumpacus]

Might have something to do with exemplifying the morals you're espousing.

Of course, if this is just a game, it defends the idea of an omnipotent god, but only at the expense of his moral leadership, in which case the Abrahamic faiths are incorrect.