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Does God follow his WORD? Or is it --- do as I say and not as I do?
#81
RE: Does God follow his WORD? Or is it --- do as I say and not as I do?
(March 12, 2015 at 1:37 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: Might have something to do with exemplifying the morals you're espousing.

It depends on God's view and plans on his creation and is only correct if God puts himself completely on the same line as his creation in regard of morals. Exemplifying the morals is necessary from a pedagogical point of view but the intentions may be completely different.

Speaking of abrahamic faiths, there are plenty of well-known examples in the texts themselves showing inconsistent moral conduct. The other problem here is that digmatics and zealots hate relativism. So they embrace outdated ancient morals and try to spot their "godly" manifistations in everyday's life.
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#82
RE: Does God follow his WORD? Or is it --- do as I say and not as I do?
(March 12, 2015 at 10:27 am)Smaug Wrote: If we consider abrahamic faiths there's no reason for God to follow his own rules at all times. Why do so if you're in total control? If we consider the fact that God is at least somewhat similar to people (who were created in His image) and that there were no external reasons to create a world then the only reason why He created it was boredom. Think about it. You had been bored and created a 'strategic game' with some pretty sophisticated A.I. for yourself. You can sympathise with the 'npc's' to some extent and keep the 'game' or get frustrated or bored again and scrap it. Or just leave it alone and create a new one. But there's no reason to bound yourself with the rules.

True but then you cannot tell people to do as you do and at the same time tell them the opposite in your book of rules that humans are to follow.

Then again, that could keep the game going forever if people are too stupid to recognize the contradictions.

I think we dithered out the problem. Stupid people.

Regards
DL

(March 12, 2015 at 1:37 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: Might have something to do with exemplifying the morals you're espousing.

Of course, if this is just a game, it defends the idea of an omnipotent god, but only at the expense of his moral leadership, in which case the Abrahamic faiths are incorrect.

I think they know this but like the money too much to be truthful with the sheep.

All mainstream religious hierarchies lie constantly and they too tell their sheep to do as they say and not as they do.

Regards
DL
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#83
RE: Does God follow his WORD? Or is it --- do as I say and not as I do?
(March 13, 2015 at 3:11 am)Smaug Wrote:
(March 12, 2015 at 1:37 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: Might have something to do with exemplifying the morals you're espousing.

It depends on God's view and plans on his creation and is only correct if God puts himself completely on the same line as his creation in regard of morals.

I disagree. As the alleged creator of human nature, he would know that we instinctively look for leadership examples, and he would know that failing to provide that example would undermine faith in at least some of the population.

(March 13, 2015 at 3:11 am)Smaug Wrote: Exemplifying the morals is necessary from a pedagogical point of view but the intentions may be completely different.

No. Exemplifying morals is necessary from a moral standpoint. If you are not exemplifying the morality you wish to inculcate, you are rejecting it, by definition. And by rejecting those morals, that makes the moral agent by his own standards immoral. It also makes those he's trying to teach question the validity of the lesson.

Hypocrites make poor leaders; this is a lesson life delivers both to the virtuous, and to those leaders who come up short.

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#84
RE: Does God follow his WORD? Or is it --- do as I say and not as I do?
(March 4, 2015 at 10:06 pm)Godschild Wrote: Then where is the proof of evolution, bring on that extraordinary evidence.

GC

Still banging the willful ignorance drum, I see.

(March 5, 2015 at 2:54 pm)Godschild Wrote: Watch a dog become a frog evolution.

GC

Wow, and I thought you were just willfully ignorant. Thanks for proving me wrong. Now I see you're just plain stupid.
Thief and assassin for hire. Member in good standing of the Rogues Guild.
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#85
RE: Does God follow his WORD? Or is it --- do as I say and not as I do?
(March 17, 2015 at 10:40 pm)SnakeOilWarrior Wrote: Wow, and I thought you were just willfully ignorant. Thanks for proving me wrong. Now I see you're just plain stupid.

Honestly, I think saying that he's "just plain stupid" is selling Godschild short.

He is clearly an exceptional kind of stupid.

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