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RE: If I were an Atheist
March 13, 2015 at 10:46 pm
Quote:If atheism is true I agree, we are the accidental by product of mindless forces that never intended our existence. This explains why atheist nations typically have an abysmal human rights record.
There are no atheist nations in the world excluding a few self-proclaimed socialist states. Curiously the concept of "human rights" is still widely discussed and some might say it's scientifically inaccurate to claim there are universal rights worldwide. What do you mean by Human Rights?
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RE: If I were an Atheist
March 14, 2015 at 11:06 am
(March 13, 2015 at 10:39 pm)Drew_2013 Wrote: No shame at all. I think by calling themselves atheists they water down the traditional position of atheists which is the belief or opinion that God(s) doesn't exist. If you asked people on the street if they knew atheism can mean someone who doesn't deny God exists they would be shocked. After all I don't deny God exists either.
Out of curiosity, do you deny the possibility the your god does not exist?
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RE: If I were an Atheist
March 14, 2015 at 12:42 pm
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RE: If I were an Atheist
March 14, 2015 at 2:00 pm
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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RE: If I were an Atheist
March 14, 2015 at 2:09 pm
(March 14, 2015 at 2:00 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: Drew_2013 is entering in depth conversations using colloquial definitions, when he should be using the formal ones, then wondering why he is unable to communicate coherently.
He's going beyond that to make up his own definition that theism means gawd.
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RE: If I were an Atheist
March 14, 2015 at 2:11 pm
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RE: If I were an Atheist
March 15, 2015 at 7:32 am
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To be really blunt, regardless of whether or not the passive claim regarding "atheist nations" is true....I doubt that it would be explicable by reference to whatever "accidents" led to our being what we are - if you absolutely have to douche the conversation up even further, Drew.
Neither atheism nor atheists exist to satisfy your predilections. So you're shit out of luck on just about every count raised. They don't have to claim what you want them to, they don't have to stop reminding you how silly you are for believing in either god or santa, and they don't have to be nice about it. Your opinions on what atheists should claim- or what atheism should be, are a complete non-issue.
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