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RE: Souls?
May 11, 2015 at 9:43 am
(This post was last modified: May 11, 2015 at 9:44 am by Prince.)
(May 11, 2015 at 8:28 am)Neimenovic Wrote: @Prince
Disturbed...? You ain't seen disturbed yet, son
How about you present evidence to back up the claims you've made? Otherwise they're just baseless assertions
And you failed to tell me what a soul is
Idc what you 'imagine' it does, provide me a coherent definition first
I did explained what 'soul' is.
Soul = life Death = soulless
If we asked ourselves. What is soul? if it's like asking. What is death?
Of course, I cannot provide you with a " tangible" evidence that soul exist... I cannot point at it... or even describe it...
During NDE, the brain activity is still functioning properly, unconsciously you can hear voices, dialogues from the surroundings. (I only can base evidence on people's experiences)
1. In this article, the patient describes how is it feel to be gliding in the air, observing the operation from above, while hearing what the doctors are saying.
site: http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20150303...ike-to-die
2. I believe NDE should be explained by Psychiatrists rather than scientists. As it is related to the mind. luckily the well-known psychiatrist Carl Jung had an NDE in his life:
- This is an excerpt from his autobiography entitled Memories, Dreams, Reflections, describing his NDE.
site: http://www.near-death.com/jung.html
He sates in regards of his experience: " as the ecstasy of a non-temporal state in which present, past, and future are one.", and "Everything that happens in time had been brought together into a concrete whole."
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RE: Souls?
May 11, 2015 at 9:46 am
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RE: Souls?
May 11, 2015 at 10:31 am
(May 11, 2015 at 9:46 am)Alex K Wrote: http://theness.com/neurologicablog/index...ce-of-nde/
https://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/nde-update/
So, to put it in perspective all NDE cases are just another story of hallucinations and nothing more. It is the result of a drug manipulating the patients mind during the cardiac arrest.
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RE: Souls?
May 11, 2015 at 10:33 am
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That's the most likely explanation, yeah. Science doesn't deal in absolute certainty. Proposing other explanations normally requires at least one unfounded assumption.
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RE: Souls?
May 11, 2015 at 10:39 am
(May 11, 2015 at 9:46 am)Alex K Wrote: http://theness.com/neurologicablog/index...ce-of-nde/
https://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/nde-update/
I read that top article myself a while back. It seriously pissed me off that the biased researchers weasled their way out of making the negative result clear to everyone. Instead they just buried it within verbose terminology in the report and it would seem didn't bother to announce it publicly in the papers etc. I just hate that sort of thing - if you're too biased to be fair with the findings, I don't think you should be doing these sorts of experiments.
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RE: Souls?
May 11, 2015 at 10:46 am
So a soul is a ghostly version of me that summarizes my personality and mindset. And it resides in my body, waiting for me to die?
That sounds kind of gross...are souls contagious?
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RE: Souls?
May 11, 2015 at 10:47 am
I don't know, but after a big explosion it takes some poor contagious to clear up all those dead souls.
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RE: Souls?
May 11, 2015 at 10:59 am
I can only imagine after a large amount of death, some old man with a vaccuum goes around to collect all the souls.
Ghostbusters?
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RE: Souls?
May 11, 2015 at 11:01 am
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Get back, you sick fucker - or I'll put the dogs to ya, I don't need any more contagions in my house. 
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RE: Souls?
May 11, 2015 at 11:19 am
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(May 11, 2015 at 10:39 am)emjay Wrote: (May 11, 2015 at 9:46 am)Alex K Wrote: http://theness.com/neurologicablog/index...ce-of-nde/
https://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/nde-update/
I read that top article myself a while back. It seriously pissed me off that the biased researchers weasled their way out of making the negative result clear to everyone. Instead they just buried it within verbose terminology in the report and it would seem didn't bother to announce it publicly in the papers etc. I just hate that sort of thing - if you're too biased to be fair with the findings, I don't think you should be doing these sorts of experiments.
Yeah, incredibly frustrating. Well, I guess they needed a bit of hype to secure funding...
(May 11, 2015 at 10:31 am)Prince Wrote: (May 11, 2015 at 9:46 am)Alex K Wrote: http://theness.com/neurologicablog/index...ce-of-nde/
https://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/nde-update/
So, to put it in perspective all NDE cases are just another story of hallucinations and nothing more. It is the result of a drug manipulating the patients mind during the cardiac arrest.
Probably not exactly simply a drug, it may be more complicated, but since they can be induced this way, that is a very plausible explanation.
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