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Transubstantiation 'miracle' shenanigans
#51
RE: Transubstantiation 'miracle' shenanigans
Or hell, how about exorcisms as healthcare. Additionally, if they're dedicated to the scientific method then they'd know that making flat assertions about untestable or undetectable phenomena (say like..oh the substantive change of bread into Jesus-flesh) is unacceptable...unless of course you've got a direct hotline to God Dodgy
In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to Liberty.
- Thomas Jefferson
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#52
RE: Transubstantiation 'miracle' shenanigans
I think it's more a case that they have realized they can no longer get away with denying science. Now it's "God did science". It's a sensible decision. Religion needs to evolve (haha) and become less and less literal or it will only continue through force/ruthless indoctrination. In my opinion.
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#53
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"A wise man ... proportions his belief to the evidence."
— David Hume, An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding, Section X, Part I.
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#54
RE: Transubstantiation 'miracle' shenanigans
Hmm, "always" is a strong word.

Who are these "modern day atheists"?

Am I one?
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#56
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But still, I don't get what the point of linking a bunch of Catholic scientists is supoosed to illustrate. I could find 'a list of hindu scientists' or la list of Jewish scientists' or 'a list of scientists who are atheists' and then say "x group has always supported science" to no effect.

What's your point?

And just to further dispute your point, how can the Catholic Church "always support the advancement of science" when they reject a basic part of the theory of evolution and flatly claim that there was a literal first man and first woman living at the same time?
In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to Liberty.
- Thomas Jefferson
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#58
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In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to Liberty.
- Thomas Jefferson
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#59
RE: Transubstantiation 'miracle' shenanigans
(May 14, 2015 at 4:17 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote:
(May 14, 2015 at 4:15 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: Galileo WAS supported by the Catholic Church, initially.

Here is an excerpt from a good article:



I hope you will take a few moments to read the full article.

Bolded part of your 'article' that is literally the only salient part.


Quote:And so it was that the Church was prompted to inquire whether Galileo was holding views contrary to Scripture.

This is NOT how science works at all.

Galileo's conundrum was not over the science. Did you read the article to get the rest of the story???
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