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Crossless2.0 · June 11, 2015 at 4:35 pm

Simon Moon: Your grasp of basic logic is, shall we say, less then stellar.

Yes, but it's good enough for church.

FatAndFaithless · June 11, 2015 at 4:35 pm

(June 11, 2015 at 4:33 pm)SteveII Wrote: It is a psychological observation of people's choices and is therefore data that can be used as evidence that there might be more than the material world.

What the fuck? This isn't evidence for "more than the material world". Are you being genuinely honest or are you just fucking around with us now?

Simon Moon · June 11, 2015 at 4:37 pm

(June 11, 2015 at 4:33 pm)SteveII Wrote: I disagree that this is appeal to numbers. It is a psychological observation of people's choices and is therefore data that can be used as evidence that there might be more than the material world.

Again, you display your less than stellar grasp of basic logic.

So, when the vast majority of humanity believed that the sun orbited the earth, and that the earth was flat, was that evidence that they were correct?

**The Valkyrie** · June 11, 2015 at 4:38 pm

Because they breed faster than the rest of us.

Longhorn · June 11, 2015 at 4:41 pm

(June 11, 2015 at 4:33 pm)SteveII Wrote: I disagree that this is appeal to numbers. It is a psychological observation of people's choices and is therefore data that can be used as evidence that there might be more than the material world.

Oh, so you're not appealing to numbers, only appealing to numbers. Got it.

**Iroscato** · June 11, 2015 at 4:42 pm

Answer the question, Stevell. Will you accept Islam as the one true way when muslims outnumber christians?

FreeTony · June 11, 2015 at 4:58 pm

(June 11, 2015 at 4:33 pm)SteveII Wrote: I disagree that this is appeal to numbers. It is a psychological observation of people's choices and is therefore data that can be used as evidence that there might be more than the material world.

Using this logic the SETI program should not be probing the electromagnetic spectrum in outer space, but instead be counting the number of members of the abovetopsecret forum. It would be a lot cheaper.

**Esquilax** · June 11, 2015 at 5:00 pm

(June 11, 2015 at 4:33 pm)SteveII Wrote: I disagree that this is appeal to numbers. It is a psychological observation of people's choices and is therefore data that can be used as evidence that there might be more than the material world.

If you look back through history, "people's choices" have often been staggeringly wrong, for an awfully long time, before they are corrected. I know you're about to fart on about how, therefore, people's beliefs in evolution are probably wrong too, or some shit like that, but the point is that belief by population is in no way an indicator of truth, as the flat earth, slavery, geocentrism and so on aptly demonstrate. It's belief by evidence that counts, and on that score, your religion is still at zero.

abaris · June 11, 2015 at 5:04 pm

(June 11, 2015 at 4:19 pm)SteveII Wrote: In spite of all the statistics and breakdowns of demographics, every day when you wake up there are more Christians in the USA and the world.

13 percent less than there were seven years ago. In the USA. So bitch and moan all you like. Either you believe in numbers and statistics or you don't. Can't have it both ways, unless you're just a toddler stomping his feet.

**Esquilax** · June 11, 2015 at 5:13 pm

(June 11, 2015 at 5:04 pm)abaris Wrote:
(June 11, 2015 at 4:19 pm)SteveII Wrote: In spite of all the statistics and breakdowns of demographics, every day when you wake up there are more Christians in the USA and the world.

13 percent less than there were seven years ago. In the USA. So bitch and moan all you like. Either you believe in numbers and statistics or you don't. Can't have it both ways, unless you're just a toddler stomping his feet.

Have you read his "oh yeah? Well I have a theory of god!" tantrum in response to being straightened out on what a scientific theory is in the "stump a christian" thread? Toddler might be about right.

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