The right to mis-define oneself

[The Grand Nudger]

Yes, and a "fat" man would -also- get his ass beaten by a musclebound man, regardless of whether or not they are both over 205 (for example).   Your comments have left the realm of disagreement and have simply become disgusting.

There is actually barely a disagreement, I've said let women fight men if they want to.  I've said men don't always have the advantage, I used the extreme example that a male corpse wouldn't be able to outrun the fastest woman on earth.  The only thing I'm making a point of is that if you don't segregate genders in sports men will dominate every weight class and every competition in sports that involve fighting strength and speed.

I'm saying a 250 pound athletic female is so So rare, most women of that weight are just fat.   Yet there's a few Brock Lesnars out there who are that weight, can do back flips, accidently land on their head, and still get up and carry on fighting.  In the short term I'd probably find it interesting to see a woman fight a man in these kinds of sports, but in the long term I just don't think women would stand enough of a chance for it to be entertaining.

I don't know why you think men would dominate in every weight class and every competition.  It's not like you have stats to that effect.....we won't even allow them to be generated..lol.

Then an athletic 250lb female would be rare, and as such women would have little to fear from 250 lb men beating them senseless.  They'd have to worry about the 135lb man beating them senseless, as he would have to worry about the 135lb women beating -him- senseless.  Nothing says we -have- to segregate....and I'm pretty sure that if you find yourself making this statement about -anything- you've gone horribly wrong...somewhere. Open it up, see where the chips fall.....doesn't stop any other leagues (like, say, gender specific, or talent specific ones) from operating. If a girl gets wins at 135, she belongs there. If she comes in and loses, she doesn't belong there..same as anyone.....I'm sure there's somewhere else to go. There are only, what, a few hundred thousand MMA leagues at any given moment, right?

In an open league, people compete wherever they belong. So -what- if men "dominated" the rankings...they would dominate because they competed and won. If we find that some poor girl can;t compete at 135 because she just wasn't born with the meaner right hook of the two she finds herself in exactly the same position as any other guy who wasn't born with the meaner right hook than the guy who just planted him in the grill - and I'm in that same boat myself..despite my swinging richard ( :looks down: wtf dick, you aren't doing the amazing work for me that you're doing for these other men.....shape up!).

I really don't see the problem, I don't see any need for segregation, I see nothing to worry about, and I see no lack of opportunity arising from it. Strength and speed are all this is based on? No intelligence, no endurance, no determination, no will, no skill, no random luck? Maybe we should just cancel this years fights and see who can bench more, and which has a faster 100m? It'll probably pan out the way the fights would have anyway.......

[Thumpalumpacus]

The key is the willingness to do battle. Men are socialized to do battle and women aren't, normally. This is why you'll see a small wife-beater with a large wife who could easily slap him six ways to Sunday ... if she wanted to.

[paulpablo]

I don't know why you think men would dominate in every weight class and every competition.  It's not like you have stats to that effect.....we won't even allow them to be generated..lol.

Then an athletic 250lb female would be rare, and as such women would have little to fear from 250 lb men beating them senseless.  They'd have to worry about the 135lb man beating them senseless, as he would have to worry about the 135lb women beating -him- senseless.  Nothing says we -have- to segregate....and I'm pretty sure that if you find yourself making this statement about -anything- you've gone horribly wrong...somewhere. Open it up, see where the chips fall.....doesn't stop any other leagues (like, say, gender specific, or talent specific ones) from operating. If a girl gets wins at 135, she belongs there. If she comes in and loses, she doesn't belong there..same as anyone.....I'm sure there's somewhere else to go. There are only, what, a few hundred thousand MMA leagues at any given moment, right?

OK I see your point.  And the more I think about it the more I would love to see women fight men and vice versa.  But the reason for me thinking men would dominate every class is simply based on a mans biology, as it was mentioned by the doctor in the previous article posted but not just that.

I don't have stats that show men are better at women when it comes to fighting, but is it not a fact that with men and women of near enough equal body build the man will still have the advantage of larger lung capacity, more powerful heart, less access fat around the chest and thighs.  THat's not bringing into the equation of muscle mass and bone density.
All of these things add up.  It doesn't mean a woman would never win a match against a man.  As I said, the more I think about it the more I do want to see it and I do think it would be interesting to see the stats on men vs women, but I think it would be more a case of waiting to see to what degree men dominate the competition rather than seeing if men do dominate the competition.

I've just been watching these Ronda Rousey fights, she's both good looking and scary looking at the same time.

[bennyboy]

She's also done some modeling work with SI etc. I mean, she's by far the best UFC fighter, and I think she could have worked as a model if she wanted to. She's got a killer smile, a hot little bod, and she's a freaking killer. When the apocalypse comes and she starts a cult, I'll be the first to sign up to follow her around in chains.