9 Dead in SC church shooting

[Jackie]

Gonna be honest, and this might shed a bit of light on the current state of the media, but as soon as I saw the headline I was thinking "Don't be a muslim, don't be a muslim, don't be a muslim", because then the Christians and right wingers would go absolutely insane.  Now, it is possible that a white guy in a hoodie can be a muslim, but I'm at least a bit relieved that it wasn't someone who fit into the prevailing media stereotype of "a brown muslim".

Younger generations are not old enough to remember the same presumption of "Muslim terrorist" was made both about the Olympic park bombing in Atlanta and the Oklahoma city attack. Neither were Muslims.

[AFTT47]

His father gave him a 45 caliber pistol for his 21st birthday. Doesn't that bring tears to your eyes?

[abaris]

His father gave him a 45 caliber pistol for his 21st birthday. Doesn't that bring tears to your eyes?

Touching. And obviously he had great plans already, since he's still 21. I guess, this has to be a proud moment for daddy.

[CapnAwesome]

[abaris]

[FatAndFaithless]

[Nope]

[tjakey]

I am not ready to call this a racist act. I'd have to know if this murderer said anything while shooting. But it could be simply a mentally disturbed individual just like the Newton shooter. If it was racist you could certainly say outside influences lead that sick fuck to that target, but I'd say mental illness regardless is going to come into play.

Even with that theater shooter, I don't like the legal standard of not guilty by reason of mental defect. I think outside a courtroom in psychology, you can know right from wrong, and be mentally ill at the same time. I think you can be guilty and mentally ill at the same time.

I think even with cases of religious violence, you are still talking about delusion and disenfranchisement combined to create acts of desperation.

Last report is that the shooter posted a picture of himself wearing a pro-apartheid jacket.  Pretty sure this is going to prove to be at least partly a racist act.  That it was also an act of an insane person is a given.

[jesus_wept]

[Jackie]