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Why Christians can't respect other's opinion?
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July 7, 2015 at 3:26 pm
(This post was last modified: July 7, 2015 at 3:33 pm by Catholic_Lady.)
Hey, thanks for the acknowledgement!
 I think there are actually a lot of Christians who respect your differences, respect you as a person, and don't want to get all preachy. You just don't really notice them because they stay quiet about that stuff. Naturally, it's the loud ones you notice most. Next time you're in a situation where a theist is bugging you, just tell them that your views are different, and though you respect their views, you are not interested in having any discussions about them. Keep it simple, respectful, and straight forward. I imagine most of them will drop it at that point.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh  RE: Why Christians can't respect other's opinion?
July 7, 2015 at 3:31 pm
(This post was last modified: July 7, 2015 at 3:33 pm by robvalue.)
I would hazard a guess at some motivations:
1- Insecurity. They're really trying to reassure themselves. It comes off in waves from many theists on this forum, aggressively demanding you agree with them. Those comfortable with their beliefs feel no such need. 2- Scoring points. Feeling good about winning more over to their side of things, to improve their standing with "God" and with their community. 3- Brainwashing. The brain is rotted out and they no longer share reality with us, life has become a mission to recruit people for an imaginary cause and not much more. 4- Sincerity. It's quite possible they really think they are doing people a favour. Difficult to judge. I agree, first try being polite and explaining you're thoroughly uninterested. Then be more firm and demand they leave you alone. If that doesn't work, I suppose report to the police, their church, or else freak them out by pretending to be posessed by the devil or something. I've heard people doing that before and it works. If they don't respect you being polite, they are asking for it.  RE: Why Christians can't respect other's opinion?
July 7, 2015 at 3:39 pm
(This post was last modified: July 7, 2015 at 3:44 pm by rado84.)
Well, except you, for my 31 years of life I haven't met a believer who would keep it quiet about that. In my country, I mean. I don't know what things are like with theists in the world cuz I've only been in Thessaloniki for a short period of time and I've never been anywhere else to have a chance to meet a theist.
(July 7, 2015 at 3:31 pm)robvalue Wrote: I agree, first try being polite and explaining you're thoroughly uninterested. Then be more firm and demand they leave you alone. If that doesn't work, I suppose report to the police, their church, or else freak them out by pretending to be posessed by the devil or something. I've heard people doing that before and it works. If they don't respect you being polite, they are asking for it. Hahahahahahahahaha, I'm gonna try that idea with "being possessed" - it should be fun!  I've tried to be polite but it almost never works. And it surely doesn't work at all when there are more believers around. As if... the other believers somehow bring courage to the problematic ones.
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~ is where / is. (July 7, 2015 at 3:39 pm)Atheist_BG Wrote: Well, except you, for my 31 years of life I haven't met a believer who would keep it quiet about that. In my country, I mean. I don't know what things are like with theists in the world cuz I've only been in Thessaloniki for a short period of time and I've never been anywhere else to have a chance to meet a theist. It may just be a difference in culture then. Has every single Christian you have ever known just started preaching to you unwarranted? I will talk about my faith only when asked and/or in relevant discussion. Otherwise I don't just come out and start talking about it. Most Christian people here in America are the same way I think.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh (July 7, 2015 at 3:52 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Has every single Christian you have ever known just started preaching to you unwarranted? Yup. That's why I was really surprised you didn't try to convert me.
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~ is where / is. (July 7, 2015 at 3:57 pm)Atheist_BG Wrote:(July 7, 2015 at 3:52 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Has every single Christian you have ever known just started preaching to you unwarranted? Hm... sorry about that. 
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh 
You have to remember that all religions want their adherents to proselytize. If you say "I'm not a believer" many will look at you simply as a potential fresh convert.
"I was thirsty for everything, but blood wasn't my style" - Live, "Voodoo Lady"
RE: Why Christians can't respect other's opinion?
July 7, 2015 at 4:19 pm
(This post was last modified: July 7, 2015 at 4:19 pm by Catholic_Lady.)
(July 7, 2015 at 4:09 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: You have to remember that all religions want their adherents to proselytize. This is true, but I am a strong believer in doing it Francis's way: "Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words." - Saint Francis of Assisi. In other words live the gospel in your actions by following the teachings of Jesus, being kind to others, turning the other cheek always. And when warranted (in questions/discussions), talk about your faith. Unfortunately, a lot of people don't get this.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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