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RE: Simple question for Christians.
July 15, 2015 at 8:56 pm
(July 15, 2015 at 8:27 pm)Godschild Wrote: I know you all fight against the God of Christianity more than any other. You post about other gods as not being real. So I would say you have to work harder not to believe the Christian God might be real.
I will say this I agree with Chad, what real difference does it make and how relevant can this question be, you can't be an atheist an believe in a god of any kind.
GC
Hint: What do you think those around us believe? What kind of theists most commonly come to this site?
If there is a god, I want to believe that there is a god. If there is not a god, I want to believe that there is no god.
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RE: Simple question for Christians.
July 15, 2015 at 9:05 pm
(July 15, 2015 at 8:27 pm)Godschild Wrote: I know you all fight against the God of Christianity more than any other. [...]
Oh, but isn't that the ONLY god? Are you a polytheist now? Tell us what other deities you worship and we'll fight those...
"The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one." - George Bernard Shaw
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RE: Simple question for Christians.
July 15, 2015 at 9:50 pm
(This post was last modified: July 15, 2015 at 9:54 pm by Simon Moon.)
(July 15, 2015 at 8:27 pm)Godschild Wrote: I know you all fight against the God of Christianity more than any other. You post about other gods as not being real. So I would say you have to work harder not to believe the Christian God might be real.
I will say this I agree with Chad, what real difference does it make and how relevant can this question be, you can't be an atheist an believe in a god of any kind.
GC
And there is the answer I was expecting from you. Thanks for not letting me down.
It couldn't possibly be that the vast majority of us, and vocal atheists in general. live in the Western world, dominated by Christianity? Or the vast majority of theists that post here are Christians?
Nah...
How old are you?
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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RE: Simple question for Christians.
July 16, 2015 at 12:47 am
Physical age or mental age? Place your bets.
Atheism is a response to theism. It's hardly our fault if the theists we net are mostly xtian flavoured, now is it?
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Simple question for Christians.
July 16, 2015 at 2:42 am
(This post was last modified: July 16, 2015 at 2:44 am by robvalue.)
It's a good question.
It seems to me a lot of Christians cannot seperate the notions of god(s) and "my god". But then I suppose every religion simply views other gods as made up and imaginary. We just go one further.
Any and all gods are very welcome to come interact with me like sensible thinking agents do. If they choose not to, then that's that. I'm not rooting around in everyone's arse crack looking for clues, nor am I interested in people presuming to speak for these gods. Yes, even if they carry around a storybook.
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RE: Simple question for Christians.
July 16, 2015 at 3:28 am
They wouldn't dare look at another God!
Why, old Phyllis from pew 7 will tell the whole congregation by tea time and you'll be looked at as a shameless harlot!
One woman - One God! Right Cath! Tell your hubby to piss off, that two's company, three's a crowd...
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Know God, Know fear.
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RE: Simple question for Christians.
July 16, 2015 at 11:56 am
(July 15, 2015 at 9:50 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: (July 15, 2015 at 8:27 pm)Godschild Wrote: I know you all fight against the God of Christianity more than any other. You post about other gods as not being real. So I would say you have to work harder not to believe the Christian God might be real.
I will say this I agree with Chad, what real difference does it make and how relevant can this question be, you can't be an atheist an believe in a god of any kind.
GC
And there is the answer I was expecting from you. Thanks for not letting me down.
It couldn't possibly be that the vast majority of us, and vocal atheists in general. live in the Western world, dominated by Christianity? Or the vast majority of theists that post here are Christians?
Nah...
How old are you?
Oh no say it ain't so, cry baby atheist are now dominated by Christians.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: Simple question for Christians.
July 16, 2015 at 11:59 am
(July 16, 2015 at 11:56 am)Godschild Wrote: (July 15, 2015 at 9:50 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: And there is the answer I was expecting from you. Thanks for not letting me down.
It couldn't possibly be that the vast majority of us, and vocal atheists in general. live in the Western world, dominated by Christianity? Or the vast majority of theists that post here are Christians?
Nah...
How old are you?
Oh no say it ain't so, cry baby atheist are now dominated by Christians.
GC
Excellent reading comprehension as always, GC.
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RE: Simple question for Christians.
July 16, 2015 at 1:13 pm
(July 15, 2015 at 8:27 pm)Godschild Wrote: I know you all fight against the God of Christianity more than any other. Not all of us. Most of us discuss the Christian religion because we live in communities or societies where that is the dominant religion, and it is the one we were most exposed to. Someone in another part of the world may be much more conversant with Islam or other religions and would spend more time discussing those instead.
In any case, none of us fight against any god. To the believer it may seem that way, but my dismissal of Yahweh is not much different than your dismissal of any other mythical figure. If you rejected someone's claim that Yeti was real and he said you were "just angry at Yeti, so you struggle against him" you would (hopefully) laugh at him for claiming such a thing. Even the people who seem to "hate god" are usually angry at other people, who they either abuse verbally or try to provoke by making claims about their beliefs and their gods. For example, Minimalist has insulted god in pretty much every possible way on this discussion board. Now ask yourself: how many times have theists responded to his rants, and how many times has god?
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RE: Simple question for Christians.
July 16, 2015 at 1:13 pm
(July 16, 2015 at 11:56 am)Godschild Wrote: Oh no say it ain't so, cry baby atheist are now dominated by Christians.
GC
In what universe was that a valid response to what was said to you?
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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