If God changed his mind

[Drich]

In your situation the test was a test of logic and reason. You tested a faith that God refused to support. You were honest with yourself and did not find enough God to support your understanding of Him. So you moved on.

The problem? You assumed wrongly God was going to meet you half way. So any effort you made was a valid one. To most people and what they understand of Christianity. You did your part. However everything taught be Christ and the apstoles says you must meet God on His terms and not your own, not to mention we must honor what we have been given us if we expect more from him.

[Lemonvariable72]

Drich after all this time how can you be so clueless as to what you argue against? I never lost my faith because if storm or anything so dramatic it was simply skepticism and a lack of an ability of people like you to give hard evidence

The house in the parable of the FOOLISH builder is your faith/system of belief. The fall/failure of the house due to its lack of a proper foundation/understanding of who Christ really is, is the reason the foolish mans house failed. The storm can be any test reason or hardship that tests the faith of any man.

The problem here is drippy that your proposal have no failure condition. They are unfalsifiable and thus incoherent.

[Drich]

The house in the parable of the FOOLISH builder is your faith/system of belief. The fall/failure of the house due to its lack of a proper foundation/understanding of who Christ really is, is the reason the foolish mans house failed. The storm can be any test reason or hardship that tests the faith of any man.

The problem here is drippy that your proposal have no failure condition. They are unfalsifiable and thus incoherent.

That's not true. We can closely examine exactly what you believed, verse what someone believes who has indeed found God and compare that to scripture. You failed where others succeeded because as you have correctly identified that at your version of God does not exist either in the bible or in the world outside of it. In general Dawkins/hitchens  arguement of an unfalsifiable God fails for two reasons one God is not a theory that need be validated in that way...

[Cyberman]

The God you believe in killed almost every living thing on the planet if the bible is to be believed, so why would that be such a unlikely order?

Let me fix it:

...If everything in the bible is to be taken literally.

In which case I'd also believe that eating pork was a sin, clothes made out of wool were immodest, earth is just a few thousand years old, and the universe was created in 7 days.

Six days. Seven is just silly.

[Drich]

God is a destination that can be found by simply following the instructions left for us. Two they both presuppose that their efforts their understanding of God is correct. I don't know much about either men, but I have heard enough about their beliefs in the God of the bible to know they are like you. Their God does not exist in the bible or the world outside of it.

[Lemonvariable72]

The problem here is drippy that your proposal have no failure condition. They are unfalsifiable and thus incoherent.

That's not true. We can closely examine exactly what you believed, verse what someone believes who has indeed found God and compare that to scripture. You failed where others succeeded because as you have correctly identified that at your version of God does not exist either in the bible or in the world outside of it. In general Dawkins/hitchens  arguement of an unfalsifiable God fails for two reasons one God is not a theory that need be validated in that way...

So in other words your God is a incoherent idea. That much is obvious.

[Godscreated]

 Matthew 16:1-4 And the Pharisees and Sadducees came, and to test him (Jesus) they asked him to show them a sign from heaven. 2) He answered them, "When it is evening, you say, 'It will be fair weather, for the sky is red.' 3) And in the morning, 'It will be stormy today, for the sky is red and threatening.' You know how to interpret the appearance of the sky, but you can't interpret the signs of the time. 4) An evil and adulterous generation seeks for a sign, but no sign will be given to it except for Jonah." Maybe you need to read the book of Jonah to find your answer.

GC

So, you're equating Pharisees and Sadducees trying to get jeebus to do magic tricks on demand to someone honestly seeking guidance that he's on the right track and should continue? Wow!

Matt 7:7
"Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you."

I asked, I sought, I knocked. Hell, I fucking begged. You're gawd either wants me to burn or it isn't there.

There's more to it than your telling me, God's not going to turn away the sincere, He accepted this sinner with open arms.

GC

[Drich]

That's not true. We can closely examine exactly what you believed, verse what someone believes who has indeed found God and compare that to scripture. You failed where others succeeded because as you have correctly identified that at your version of God does not exist either in the bible or in the world outside of it. In general Dawkins/hitchens  arguement of an unfalsifiable God fails for two reasons one God is not a theory that need be validated in that way...

So in other words your God is a incoherent idea. That much is obvious.

No, sport God is not an idea at all, and therefore is not subject to the regulations that govern philosophies and theories. God is an indivisual, sentient being who can be met/verified on His terms and conditions. If your mind can't move past the idea of plausible falsafiablity  then apply that term to the terms and conditions set upon us inorder to meet Him.

Otherwise know, to say you or anyone else is unfalseifiable is foolishness. Why? because you are not an idea or theory, you are a indivisual sentient being who's proof in your existence in not in a philosophy or theory, but being in your direct presences.

[Minimalist]

Hitler himself says in Mein Kampf that his public statements should be understood as propaganda that bears no relation to the truth but is designed to sway the masses.

Give it up.  The fucker was one of you.  



I know you desperately want to posthumously kick him out of your club but there is too much evidence.  If only we had 1/10 as much evidence for your godboy there'd be no argument about him.

[Wyrd of Gawd]

Kingpin, that's utter bullshit they fed you. http://atheism.about.com/od/adolfhitlern...rJesus.htm
This second link provides many quotes from mein kempf showing that he was a ardent follower of Jesus through a protestant denomination and often was involved social activity with Christian groups.

Hitler himself says in Mein Kampf that his public statements should be understood as propaganda that bears no relation to the truth but is designed to sway the masses.

The Nazi idea of an Aryan Christ who uses the sword to cleanse the earth of the Jews was obviously a radical departure from the traditional Christian understanding and was condemned as such by Pope Pius XI at the time. Moreover, Hitler's anti-Semitism was not religious, it was racial.

In his multi-volume history of the Third Reich, historian Richard Evans writes that "the Nazis regarded the churches as the strongest and toughest reservoirs of ideological opposition to the principles they believed in." Once Hitler and the Nazis came to power, they launched a ruthless drive to subdue and weaken the Christian churches in Germany."

Even Christopher Hitchens, who was well versed in Christian atrocities, refers to Hitler as a pagan polytheist.  This is of course to push him in to the religious camp, but my point is I don't see how it can be labeled as Christian.  Just because something is done in the name of something, does not mean that it is.  

I would bring up Hitler's Table Talk but that seems to have as much scrutiny around it as The Bible.  In that, Hitler seems VERY anti-Christian and VERY anti-religious, but people attacking the source and translations etc of that text.

Don't forget that Theodor Herzl laid out the Zionist plan to actually incite anti-semitism in Europe so that the Jews would get off of their butts and go steal Palestine.  They were behind the commie takeover of Russia and they tried to pull the same thing in Germany.  They were legitimate domestic enemies of the State.  

Speaking of Christian churches, some of them in the US were citadels of racism that were intent on depriving fellow citizens who believed in their same silly god of their human rights.  And those same American Christians rounded up Japanese who were citizens of other Western Hemisphere countries and threw their butts in US and Canadian concentration camps for years on end.  Heck, they even threw some Jews in there with them.