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RE: Is it bad that Muhammed(pbuh) married Aicha ?
July 18, 2015 at 11:43 pm
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(July 18, 2015 at 11:17 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: (July 18, 2015 at 11:12 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Stop opposing the family of mohammad.....
That is the path to God chosen for humanity and designated in this age for all who the reminder reaches out to. Love of the family of Mohammad. Love the exalted ones who glorify God as he ought to be glorified, who obey him and don't disobey him, who follow him most faithfully, who guide others, who strive in God's way, who's light and blessings are found in all creation, and who loving would imply to love all goodness in all humans.
You got it Rhythm. For an Atheist, the first step is to submit to the fact we humans are created in degrees from their archetype and are meant to incline to perfect souls (which is them), and that we do have souls and that they are exalted souls with unseen reality, beauty, and glory linked to the Eternal and Absolute, and their praise, honor, and treasure belongs to HIM (exalted he above all), and also recognize degrees of their being in other creation, and love them out of the same love of perfect souls who are praiseworthy, good, exalted, beautiful, and rivers that connect to God and have been brought out to this world.
If you think that pedos are archetypes or "perfect souls" (or praiseworthy, or good, or exalted, or beautiful) that's -your- business. I think that you're as sick a fuck as the last pedo praiser, and I'm less interested in your new religion every time you open your mouth.
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RE: Is it bad that Muhammed(pbuh) married Aicha ?
July 18, 2015 at 11:53 pm
So I try to make it through this thread but I got so upset that I finally just clicked out for a few minutes
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RE: Is it bad that Muhammed(pbuh) married Aicha ?
July 19, 2015 at 12:07 am
Rhythm, Quran designates the age of marriage to be when orphans can receive wealth and are at their most strength.
Hadiths are not protected. If they contradict Quran (like say it's ok to marry a 6 year old), then they should be opposed by believers.
If you were to accept Islam, you should reject all hadiths that contradict Quran.
And may God inspire your heart love of the holy ones, their holy spirit, and incline to the veracious ones and his friends.
And if I'm sick and evil, may God guide me out of it, and if what you said against me is wrong, may God forgive you regarding it.
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RE: Is it bad that Muhammed(pbuh) married Aicha ?
July 19, 2015 at 12:20 am
Morality originates from god eh?
Any version of 'god' I've ever heard was pretty damn amoral.
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RE: Is it bad that Muhammed(pbuh) married Aicha ?
July 19, 2015 at 12:20 am
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(July 19, 2015 at 12:07 am)MysticKnight Wrote: Rhythm, Quran designates the age of marriage to be when orphans can receive wealth and are at their most strength.
Hadiths are not protected. If they contradict Quran (like say it's ok to marry a 6 year old), then they should be opposed by believers.
If you were to accept Islam, you should reject all hadiths that contradict Quran.
And may God inspire your heart love of the holy ones, their holy spirit, and incline to the veracious ones and his friends.
And if I'm sick and evil, may God guide me out of it, and if what you said against me is wrong, may God forgive you regarding it.
Marrying kid's is wrong end of discussion.
Having intimate relationship with kid's is wrong end of discussion.
The point being that a book says it's okay doesn't mean its okay.
I don't care if it is a religious book who gives a shit it's still morally
and ethically wrong.
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RE: Is it bad that Muhammed(pbuh) married Aicha ?
July 19, 2015 at 12:35 am
The Quran says you have to be an adult to be married. I'm sorry but all people's sticking to unproven ambiguity (hadiths) rather then clear signs of the religion (the light of God's book) just shows there are dark forces working against the hearts of humanity.
It doesn't show anything wrong with God's book which shows it was wrong to marry children (as it's own words, it only forbids us from evil).
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RE: Is it bad that Muhammed(pbuh) married Aicha ?
July 19, 2015 at 12:48 am
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The qurans notion of adulthood is not mine Mystic. I'm aware of the competing estimates for the girls age, none satisfy. Again, you can praise a pedo all day long if you like, but there's no point in trying to recruit me to your cause. I'm not interested in your gods forgiveness for anything I've said.....and I never will be.
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RE: Is it bad that Muhammed(pbuh) married Aicha ?
July 19, 2015 at 12:54 am
The Quran says when people are at their most strength, that is when they can get married and at are the age allowable for marriage. Problem is hadiths simply give the age when a person is baligh mature, but the Quran says matures to the age of most strength. That means there is an average age when humans reach the most strength, and Islam is saying this the age of marriage. And this refers to not simply physical strength, but moral and will strength, the strength to live and flourish. This is probably around 18-20 years of age.
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RE: Is it bad that Muhammed(pbuh) married Aicha ?
July 19, 2015 at 1:00 am
Mystic, are you honestly advocating for underage girls being married to grown men only to support your religion?
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RE: Is it bad that Muhammed(pbuh) married Aicha ?
July 19, 2015 at 1:52 am
(July 18, 2015 at 5:03 am)huss88ein Wrote: Well I have been asked by a member about this and I told him that the age of marriage differ from time to time and from place to another .
If you ask me it is not unethical to get married if u reach the age of puberty for both sex and with of course the consent of the two people involved and their families.
And it is not just me saying that take a look at Texas law for example it says the same thing so why aren't they bad people.
http://statelaws.findlaw.com/texas-law/t...-laws.html
so the marriage issue is relative and not the same in everywhere and in islam it is the same thing but where judged and criticized because our law comes from a holy book . People keep whining about Mohammed marrying a 6-9 year old girl while they conveniently ignore that reality that there was no minimum age in America during slavery. And they also ignore the fact that the age of consent was 7 in Delaware as recently as 1895.
In the Jewish Babylonian Talmud they have a complex set of instructions for banging babies.
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