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Selling your soul.
#11
RE: Selling your soul.
(August 6, 2015 at 7:53 pm)Neimenovic Wrote: What does he do with these souls anyway? Make moonshine?

Just bought a batch in Fallout New Vegas.
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#12
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It’s funny, I did that years ago when I was jesus boy. But, instead of the devil, I sold it to jesus. Aren’t I a peach? So, I guess jesus will still have my soul when I die, even though I don’t believe in him anymore.

Maybe jesus will sell my soul to Hephaestus, so he can have a night with Aphrodite. I wouldn’t blame him, and I’d rather my soul be with someone cooler anyway, maybe Thor instead. My soul is probably on the spiritual black market somewhere. Souls are currency of the gods.
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#13
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(August 6, 2015 at 6:29 pm)Chad32 Wrote: There's this idea about selling your soul that goes around. The devil tricks you into signing a contract because he wants your soul. The problem I see with this is that by default he already gets everyone's soul. You have to beg god not to send you to hell, during your lifetime, or you go to hell.

It's not like a contract keeps you from being saved, either. Supposedly Jesus can still save you, even after you make a contract in these stories, unless I'm wrong. So what's the point of these stories about contracts in exchange for something the devil already gets by default?


I can't be bothered to look this silly stuff up, but it was my impression that without selling your soul to the devil, you would be able to repent in the end and cheat the devil out of a lifetime of sinning with him getting nothing for it.  But if you sold your soul, it was a done deal.

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— David Hume, An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding, Section X, Part I.
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#14
RE: Selling your soul.
(August 6, 2015 at 7:59 pm)Salacious B. Crumb Wrote: It’s funny, I did that years ago when I was jesus boy. But, instead of the devil, I sold it to jesus.
OK, kind of sad, kind of sick. I'm hoping that you were young. jesus had to have a go between. Who brokered the deal?
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#15
RE: Selling your soul.
(August 6, 2015 at 8:06 pm)mh.brewer Wrote:
(August 6, 2015 at 7:59 pm)Salacious B. Crumb Wrote: It’s funny, I did that years ago when I was jesus boy. But, instead of the devil, I sold it to jesus.
OK, kind of sad, kind of sick. I'm hoping that you were young. jesus had to have a go between. Who brokered the deal?

Yeah, kind of sad, but I try to be honest about it. But, hey, there are people that actually get the logic stuffed in their face on here, and remain christians their whole life, so I'm not a worst case scenario candidate, by far, in the sad department. I probably was in my mid-teens when I did that childish soul selling haha, and almost nearly fell out of it entirely, on my own, by the age of 12, because there was critical thought going on there, but fear got to me. I drifted mostly away from it in my late teens and early 20’s, because that critical thought kicked in again, but the heavy indoctrination was still in the back of my brain. I thought of all the different religions out there, and I thought that a god couldn’t send people to hell, because they were raised in a different religion. The thing that got me back into the catholic faith was the Fatima story. I didn’t question it, like I should have, and was devout for a few years after that. I was living a contradiction.. I was thinking that god wouldn’t send people to hell, but at the same time I believed the mary messages of all these people that were going to hell.

I feel I was an intelligent and open-minded, but lacked the amount of skepticism needed to lose the faith. But, now, I have all three of those. Although, I know I’m easily in the bottom 50% on the intelligence meter, on this forum. I don’t believe everything that was fed to me anymore, and now, I question everything. As soon as I took a critical look at my religion, it failed so quick, you don’t even know. I don’t think I’ll ever have such a drastic transformation in my life ever again. Being a devout believer one time, then after starting some unbiased research, minutes later, i completely dropped the religion for good.

Who brokered the deal? I guess I was the broker, which means I never got it in writing, so I’m safe! But, I’ll let him have my soul still, I have no use for it.
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#16
RE: Selling your soul.
(August 7, 2015 at 12:13 am)Salacious B. Crumb Wrote:
(August 6, 2015 at 8:06 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: OK, kind of sad, kind of sick. I'm hoping that you were young. jesus had to have a go between. Who brokered the deal?

Yeah, kind of sad, but I try to be honest about it. But, hey, there are people that actually get the logic stuffed in their face on here, and remain christians their whole life, so I'm not a worst case scenario candidate, by far, in the sad department. I probably was in my mid-teens when I did that childish soul selling haha, and almost nearly fell out of it entirely, on my own, by the age of 12, because there was critical thought going on there, but fear got to me. I drifted mostly away from it in my late teens and early 20’s, because that critical thought kicked in again, but the heavy indoctrination was still in the back of my brain. I thought of all the different religions out there, and I thought that a god couldn’t send people to hell, because they were raised in a different religion. The thing that got me back into the catholic faith was the Fatima story. I didn’t question it, like I should have, and was devout for a few years after that. I was living a contradiction.. I was thinking that god wouldn’t send people to hell, but at the same time I believed the mary messages of all these people that were going to hell.

I feel I was an intelligent and open-minded, but lacked the amount of skepticism needed to lose the faith. But, now, I have all three of those. Although, I know I’m easily in the bottom 50% on the intelligence meter, on this forum. I don’t believe everything that was fed to me anymore, and now, I question everything. As soon as I took a critical look at my religion, it failed so quick, you don’t even know. I don’t think I’ll ever have such a drastic transformation in my life ever again. Being a devout believer one time, then after starting some unbiased research, minutes later, i completely dropped the religion for good.

Who brokered the deal? I guess I was the broker, which means I never got it in writing, so I’m safe! But, I’ll let him have my soul still, I have no use for it.
Thanks for your openness and honesty. Don't belittle your intelligence. We all can't be that smart (I'm one of them). Kind of irks me when it gets trotted out here.

So........ you did this all on your own? No Suggestion from others?

The sick comment was not directed at you but those around you that may have put you up to it.
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#17
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I made a deal with the devil to get good weather for my wedding and honeymoon. I didn't offer my soul, instead I said there could be crap weather the rest of the year.

Weirdly, it worked. Obviously I didn't expect it to, so my apologies to everyone in England from July - December 2010. As far as I know I have the same number of souls as before.
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#18
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So, you did a done deal with the devil and you stooged him!
He's another toothless useless tiger like his mate upstairs ...All fucking talk, no action!

Now that I think about it, maybe the bible was the inerrant word of God.
A compulsive narcissistic immature little arsehole could have written the bible word for word as it stands!
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#19
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I'm wondering if I can sell my soul on e-bay. I can print out and sign a unique framed certificate saying that I hereby pass my soul to <insert name here>.

I wonder if anyone would buy it and how much I would get for it.
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#20
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I said it before, and I'll say it again. If I had a soul to sell, I would use it to get the most awesome bass guitar playing skills the world has ever seen.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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