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RE: Crazy shit from ezekiel.
August 25, 2015 at 12:10 am
(August 24, 2015 at 10:17 pm)Godschild Wrote: (August 24, 2015 at 10:00 pm)Jenny A Wrote: To put it less gently I asked how the heck you find Jesus in there?
I believe the first question asked was for you to prove me wrong. I'm still asking prove me wrong.
Like I said Christ is the only part of the Trinity that appears as a man, it was Jesus who visited Abraham before Sodom and Gomorrah. Christ did not enter the cities only the angels. I know neither situation refers to Christ, nor do they refer to the Father, the Father is always called and referred to as Spirit, Christ the Son is always seen as man and the Holy Spirit is seen as Spirit or dove and one case as flaming tongues.
GC
You see that's where the problem lies. The OT doesn't include Jesus though it does include god appearing in a variety of ways and forms. The Hebrews who wrote it don't see the messiah showing up early. Why should you other than that you are projecting later Christian scripture on it? Absent a gloss of Christian theology there is no Jesus in those verses, just god appearing in human form.
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RE: Crazy shit from ezekiel.
August 25, 2015 at 12:13 am
(August 24, 2015 at 10:17 pm)Godschild Wrote: (August 24, 2015 at 10:00 pm)Jenny A Wrote: To put it less gently I asked how the heck you find Jesus in there?
I believe the first question asked was for you to prove me wrong. I'm still asking prove me wrong.
Like I said Christ is the only part of the Trinity that appears as a man, it was Jesus who visited Abraham before Sodom and Gomorrah. Christ did not enter the cities only the angels. I know neither situation refers to Christ, nor do they refer to the Father, the Father is always called and referred to as Spirit, Christ the Son is always seen as man and the Holy Spirit is seen as Spirit or dove and one case as flaming tongues.
GC (Emphasis is mine)
You're still shifting the burden. Bad form GC.
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RE: Crazy shit from ezekiel.
August 25, 2015 at 12:34 am
(August 22, 2015 at 10:00 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: (August 22, 2015 at 9:55 pm)Brakeman Wrote: According to Christian's "Great Big Book 'O Crazy"
Well, of course this is completely stupid and only taken seriously by completely stupid people, but there are certain christians on here who definitely have the flint-like hardened head.
Actually that's a Jewish book.......
Funny I thought it was most commonly printed in the Christian bible. I think dial up the church's, let them know of the mistake.
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RE: Crazy shit from ezekiel.
August 25, 2015 at 1:52 am
(August 22, 2015 at 10:00 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Actually that's a Jewish book....... This might blow your mind a bit but...
So are all of your books.
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RE: Crazy shit from ezekiel.
August 25, 2015 at 7:19 am
(August 25, 2015 at 1:52 am)Nestor Wrote: (August 22, 2015 at 10:00 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Actually that's a Jewish book....... This might blow your mind a bit but...
So are all of your books. Really? I thought Judaism didn't believe in Jesus Christ being the son of God.
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RE: Crazy shit from ezekiel.
August 25, 2015 at 10:06 am
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(August 24, 2015 at 11:15 pm)TRJF Wrote: And I still want you and Huggy to try to prove each other wrong.
Who has the burden of proof in that one? The person who made their position know second?
It's up to you to prove we're wrong, we both believe in the God of creation and salvation.
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RE: Crazy shit from ezekiel.
August 25, 2015 at 10:08 am
(August 25, 2015 at 10:06 am)Godschild Wrote: (August 24, 2015 at 11:15 pm)TRJF Wrote: And I still want you and Huggy to try to prove each other wrong.
Who has the burden of proof in that one? The person who made their position know second?
It's up to you to prove we're wrong, we both believ in the God of creation and salvation.
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All this time here and you still don't understand the burden of evidence thing, huh? You're special in an unenviable way.
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RE: Crazy shit from ezekiel.
August 25, 2015 at 10:10 am
(August 25, 2015 at 12:10 am)Jenny A Wrote: (August 24, 2015 at 10:17 pm)Godschild Wrote: I believe the first question asked was for you to prove me wrong. I'm still asking prove me wrong.
Like I said Christ is the only part of the Trinity that appears as a man, it was Jesus who visited Abraham before Sodom and Gomorrah. Christ did not enter the cities only the angels. I know neither situation refers to Christ, nor do they refer to the Father, the Father is always called and referred to as Spirit, Christ the Son is always seen as man and the Holy Spirit is seen as Spirit or dove and one case as flaming tongues.
GC
You see that's where the problem lies. The OT doesn't include Jesus though it does include god appearing in a variety of ways and forms. The Hebrews who wrote it don't see the messiah showing up early. Why should you other than that you are projecting later Christian scripture on it? Absent a gloss of Christian theology there is no Jesus in those verses, just god appearing in human form.
You're right God in human form, God the Son, the Son has always shown himself in human form. The Hebrews will point to many scriptures that show Christ coming in the future. Where else would the obtain the information of the coming Messiah.
GC
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RE: Crazy shit from ezekiel.
August 25, 2015 at 10:15 am
(August 25, 2015 at 12:13 am)SnakeOilWarrior Wrote: (August 24, 2015 at 10:17 pm)Godschild Wrote: I believe the first question asked was for you to prove me wrong. I'm still asking prove me wrong.
Like I said Christ is the only part of the Trinity that appears as a man, it was Jesus who visited Abraham before Sodom and Gomorrah. Christ did not enter the cities only the angels. I know neither situation refers to Christ, nor do they refer to the Father, the Father is always called and referred to as Spirit, Christ the Son is always seen as man and the Holy Spirit is seen as Spirit or dove and one case as flaming tongues.
GC (Emphasis is mine)
You're still shifting the burden. Bad form GC.
I was challenged on my knowledge, when one challenges the burden reverts to the challenger, You need to come into the real world instead of living in the world of lies you've been fed.
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RE: Crazy shit from ezekiel.
August 25, 2015 at 10:28 am
(August 25, 2015 at 10:06 am)Godschild Wrote: (August 24, 2015 at 11:15 pm)TRJF Wrote: And I still want you and Huggy to try to prove each other wrong.
Who has the burden of proof in that one? The person who made their position know second?
It's up to you to prove we're wrong, we both believe in the God of creation and salvation.
GC
I mean on the specific point of Jesus wrestling. You've explicitly stated mutually exclusive viewpoints.
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