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RE: How Do We Respect Other People's Beliefs?
September 8, 2015 at 7:15 pm
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To what extent should I respect the beliefs of a self proclaimed Christian who:
attends a church with a woman pastor
doesn't hate his parents with a Godly hate
cannot heal the sick
refuses to drink poison
has never spoken in tongues
refuses to rebuke those remarried following divorce
????????????????
Aren't my hands tied in that regard till the self proclaimed Christian cleans up their act ?? Can I at least admonish them to try harder ??
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How Do We Respect Other People's Beliefs?
September 8, 2015 at 8:23 pm
You have some valid points Vorlon.
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RE: How Do We Respect Other People's Beliefs?
September 8, 2015 at 8:26 pm
I even spotted them the serpent thing.
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RE: How Do We Respect Other People's Beliefs?
September 8, 2015 at 8:45 pm
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.
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RE: How Do We Respect Other People's Beliefs?
September 8, 2015 at 9:37 pm
(September 8, 2015 at 8:26 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: I even spotted them the serpent thing.
If they don't do it all, they belong in hell with almost everyone else.
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RE: How Do We Respect Other People's Beliefs?
September 8, 2015 at 10:28 pm
(September 7, 2015 at 5:12 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: (September 7, 2015 at 1:49 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: Weird maybe, how some, for example, Catholic dogma MUST be incorporated into laws for everyone (abortion to start with) but Catholics don't seem to mind Arbies being open on Friday.
God is a touchy motherfucker, how we know Arbies ain't pissing Him off royally ??
This is not true for all laws. There are plenty of Catholic laws that we don't necessarily think should be the law of the state. Premarital sex, for example. It's against Catholic law, but we don't think it should be illegal.
Abortion we do think should be illegal because we see it as killing an innocent human life.
But why are there any instances of Catholic dogma that shouldn't be implemented into the nations laws ??
Does Catholic conviction falter on some issues ?? Are doubts are creeping in ??
Timothy assures us ALL scripture is suitable. No asterisk, no fine print, just the Word. Otta be easy, no ?
(weird this post sounds snarky, but I'm perplexed again/still)
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RE: How Do We Respect Other People's Beliefs?
September 8, 2015 at 10:36 pm
"A wise man ... proportions his belief to the evidence."
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RE: How Do We Respect Other People's Beliefs?
September 8, 2015 at 11:05 pm
(September 8, 2015 at 10:28 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: (September 7, 2015 at 5:12 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: This is not true for all laws. There are plenty of Catholic laws that we don't necessarily think should be the law of the state. Premarital sex, for example. It's against Catholic law, but we don't think it should be illegal.
Abortion we do think should be illegal because we see it as killing an innocent human life.
But why are there any instances of Catholic dogma that shouldn't be implemented into the nations laws ??
Does Catholic conviction falter on some issues ?? Are doubts are creeping in ??
Timothy assures us ALL scripture is suitable. No asterisk, no fine print, just the Word. Otta be easy, no ?
(weird this post sounds snarky, but I'm perplexed again/still)
There are a lot of things that are "Catholic dogma" and also happen to be against the law. Stealing, murdering, raping, etc. Like all those things, we think abortion should be against the law because it is taking away the right of someone else. In this case, the right to life of the unborn.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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RE: How Do We Respect Other People's Beliefs?
September 8, 2015 at 11:33 pm
(September 8, 2015 at 3:47 pm)Losty Wrote: (September 8, 2015 at 3:41 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: 
Well obviously I wouldn't say I agree with literally telling anyone to "f*ck off" if they refuse to leave you alone, but I do agree in principle to be stern at that point.
But that's likely because you think swearing is bad. I personally think it's silly to be concerned about "bad" words.
So maybe just say something like "bless you" but with an air of exasperation?
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RE: How Do We Respect Other People's Beliefs?
September 10, 2015 at 3:56 am
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