Saint Peter's Bones

[Minimalist]

It's an atheist forum and shitheads like him deserve to be told off.

If he wants to get blessed and blown by pervert priests he can go to a catholick board.

Because atheists can't be expected to be polite to their guests and to engage in civil discussions even when they disagree with them?

Believe me, Min, you and a few others here have more than confirmed the classic stereotype of the angry atheist.

I'll make you a deal, asshole.  On the day that I give a flying fuck what you think I'll send you a PM to let you know.

Hint:  Don't hold your breath waiting.

[ignoramus]

Jenny, this is the kind of pseudo-science that people glom onto when they are desperate to prove a pre-determined outcome.

"This CAN'T be the Shroud of Jesus...let's figure out why."

If you want to make a compelling case, Jenny, read books by scientists who are either neutral or supporters of the Shroud's authenticity. Then prove them wrong

I love this.
On the one hand these pseudo-scientists are "desperate to prove a pre-determined outcome", but on the other, "let's ask the supporters of the Shroud's authenticity", because we all know THEY WON'T BE "desperate to prove a pre-determined outcome".

[Jenny A]

[Randy Carson]

You labor under the notion that somehow atheists, or me in particular, need to spend time and energy disproving all evidence of god in order to shore up our disbelief.  Not so.  I've never seen evidence of the divine that gave me so much as a twinge.  And I have no real interest in investigating every half baked relic or miracle as if it mattered.

How do you know that the Shroud is "half-baked" without investigating it? You just decided that in advance of actually learning more?



Atheist: Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

Theist: Well, consider the Shroud of Turin - an extraordinary artifact that science cannot explain.

Atheist: I'm not interested in investigating every bit of your "evidence" as if it mattered.

Theist:

[Wyrd of Gawd]

You labor under the notion that somehow atheists, or me in particular, need to spend time and energy disproving all evidence of god in order to shore up our disbelief.  Not so.  I've never seen evidence of the divine that gave me so much as a twinge.  And I have no real interest in investigating every half baked relic or miracle as if it mattered.

How do you know that the Shroud is "half-baked" without investigating it? You just decided that in advance of actually learning more?



Atheist: Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

Theist: Well, consider the Shroud of Turin - an extraordinary artifact that science cannot explain.

Atheist: I'm not interested in investigating every bit of your "evidence" as if it mattered.

Theist:

Please explain the chain of custody for the shroud from 33 AD to today.

[Minimalist]

How do you know that the Shroud is "half-baked" without investigating it? You just decided that in advance of actually learning more?

It's been investigated.  It is a medieval work of art...( I don't know if it was a "forgery" because I don't know what was in the mind of the artist when he made it.)  The artist is not responsible for the claims of pious fools who lived centuries after him.

Case closed, dummy.

[Jenny A]

You labor under the notion that somehow atheists, or me in particular, need to spend time and energy disproving all evidence of god in order to shore up our disbelief.  Not so.  I've never seen evidence of the divine that gave me so much as a twinge.  And I have no real interest in investigating every half baked relic or miracle as if it mattered.

How do you know that the Shroud is "half-baked" without investigating it? You just decided that in advance of actually learning more?



Atheist: Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

Theist: Well, consider the Shroud of Turin - an extraordinary artifact that science cannot explain.

Atheist: I'm not interested in investigating every bit of your "evidence" as if it mattered.

Theist:

The Shroud is an extraordinary claim.   I see no evidence connecting it (be it supernatural or as is most likely not) to Jesus.  Connection?  Nor do I see any evidence showing it to be supernatural.

Atheist: Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

Theist: Well, consider the Shroud of Turin - an extraordinary artifact that science cannot explain.

Atheist: That it is extraordinary is really just another extraordinary claim for which there is no extraordinary evidence.  Somewhere along the line you still need extraordinary evidence for extraordinary claims.