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RE: Sad Reality :(
September 15, 2015 at 7:35 pm
(September 15, 2015 at 7:29 pm)MTL Wrote: (September 15, 2015 at 7:03 pm)heatiosrs Wrote: Born too late to explore the earth,
Born too early to explore the universe
How great a percentage of your personal dreams and ambitions hinged on personal space exploration? None, because I have accepted the fact that will probably not happen, I am just saying in this thread how cool it would be if we were living in a generation where we could explore a new planet for the first time.
Not understanding why it seems you are being so hostile towards me.
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RE: Sad Reality :(
September 15, 2015 at 7:38 pm
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(September 15, 2015 at 7:13 pm)heatiosrs Wrote: (September 15, 2015 at 7:07 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: That's a bit short-sighted, innit? Lots of places here are home remain unexplored, and astronomers (especially the radio types) are exploring the universe - literally - every single day and turning up new wonders at a pace that doesn't half make your head go round.
Boru
Talking about physical exploration. NASA is completely under-funded, when we went to the moon people thought we'd be on mars within 20 years, 50 years later we are only just starting to talk about that. It will be millennium before we develop the technology to explore a significant part of space.
Getting to Mars is an absurdly more challenging affair than getting to the Moon, which was a bastard in its own right. We're not talking days or weeks of weightlessness and exposure to solar radiation, we're talking well over a year. We need to figure out how to keep half a dozen crewmembers alive, fit, fed, hydrated and sane for months on end, with zero chance of extra supplies, a rescue mission or tangible help beyond radio contact, in an environment that our biology is entirely unused to existing within.
None of these challenges are going to be easy, and none of them could be overcome with 80's technology. But things are starting to look up - the SLS is being funded and is under development, SpaceX and Boeing are starting to collaborate and compete, Virgin is seriously looking into space tourism (setbacks aside). We're well past "just talking about it" - it's bloody well happening, my guess by 2030.
The admirable, but ultimately misplaced optimism that hung around in the 60's and 70's was borne from short-sightedness and naiveté as to the reasons we truly made it to the Moon - the US was shit scared of the USSR, and wanted to be the first ones there, no matter the cost. Once the USSR collapsed, the motivation evaporated.
Yet now, this new space race is being created simply from technology catching up to our wild dreams of the 60's, and rich kids who had their formative years in those hazy times now have enough money and influence to start a new drive towards space. Things are starting to come full circle, they just took a little longer than we thought to come around.
Plus if we don't get off our arses, China might be the first to Mars, and we can't have that.
As to exploring deep space...really, I doubt we will ever develop the technology to explore it in manageable timescales for human lifespans. The laws of physics are not known for their laid-back nature, and are likely to take notice if we start fucking around with Alcubiérre drives and the like. But colonising the solar system will most likely be feasible in the next century or so, and that will be enough to sustain our species for hundreds of millions of years, if successful.
So...don't feel frustrated at having been born too late or too early - take pride at having been born when the seeds of interplanetary travel were truly being sown, and the human race as a whole became more and more self-aware, not to mention curious once more.
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RE: Sad Reality :(
September 15, 2015 at 7:38 pm
(September 15, 2015 at 7:35 pm)heatiosrs Wrote: (September 15, 2015 at 7:29 pm)MTL Wrote: How great a percentage of your personal dreams and ambitions hinged on personal space exploration? None, because I have accepted the fact that will probably not happen, I am just saying in this thread how cool it would be if we were living in a generation where we could explore a new planet for the first time.
Not understanding why it seems you are being so hostile towards me.
I'm not hostile, baby. Boru seemed to take a bit of issue with you, but I just find your despair a bit overstated.
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RE: Sad Reality :(
September 15, 2015 at 7:46 pm
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I'd like to know what percentage of people give to warp drive tech ever becoming a reality.
Is it even possible?
I'm 50/50 at this stage but not for thousands of years.
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RE: Sad Reality :(
September 15, 2015 at 8:01 pm
(September 15, 2015 at 7:46 pm)ignoramus Wrote: I'd like to know what percentage of people give to warp drive tech ever becoming a reality.
Is it even possible?
I'm 50/50 at this stage but not for thousands of years.
I'm in the 'highly unlikely, ever' camp, myself.
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RE: Sad Reality :(
September 15, 2015 at 8:47 pm
None of us (more than likely) will live to see what does in the human race.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental.
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RE: Sad Reality :(
September 16, 2015 at 2:11 am
It's still a more positive outlook than mine:
Born.
Fuck.
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RE: Sad Reality :(
September 16, 2015 at 3:53 am
OP is a meme lord
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Fact: Every time you eat a bite of cake, someone gets horsewhipped.
Facter: Every time two people kiss, an orphanage collapses.
Factest: Every time a baby is born, an innocent animal is severely mocked for its physical appearance. Don't be a pleasure hog. Your every smile is a dagger. Happiness is murder.
Vote "yes" on Proposition 1321. Think of some kids. Some kids."
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RE: Sad Reality :(
September 16, 2015 at 12:22 pm
.....eh. coulda been worse c:
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RE: Sad Reality :(
September 16, 2015 at 2:20 pm
Assuming we don't collapse the ecosystem in our lifetimes (I'm not ruling out that possibility), it's a great time to be alive. We've developed aircraft, automobiles/motorcycles, and computers with highspeed internet. We've begun to solve most major medical issues that plagued (literally!) our immediate ancestors. We've figured out where we are in the cosmos and developed a solid scientific explanation of how we got here. Our knowledge is growing exponentially, so fast that it's hard to keep up with even a fraction of it.
Yes, I do sometimes rue the fact that we don't get to explore the universe in ships of some sort (I like that phrase, "the laws of physics are not known for their laid-back nature", Iroscato!), usually when musing on Sagan's passage about how the religious Dark Ages set our civilization back by 1000 years, but then I go start up the Road King, and all is well.
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I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
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