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(September 25, 2015 at 4:40 am)Randy Carson Wrote:
(September 25, 2015 at 4:12 am)rexbeccarox Wrote: Yeah, well, your misunderstanding of the rules, which don't seem to elude the majority or members, recently earned you a two-week vacation. I'm not too worried that we're making any missteps based on your interpretation.
Just sayin'.
When can a new member with less than 30 days and 30 posts link to outside content?
When it is conducive to their argument and is not simply plagiarism, advertising or a video/article with no points of further discussion explicit within the post (eg. posting a video or article without any input from the poster).
All decisions and reviews are at the discretion of the staff. We review on a case by case basis and go from there, and generally do not take past behavior into account unless the pattern of behavior is the same.
September 25, 2015 at 5:55 am (This post was last modified: September 25, 2015 at 6:07 am by rexbeccarox.)
Jesus is the only way to Heaven.
Muhammad is the way to hell.
Differences Between Muhammad and Jesus...
MUHAMMAD
Said Allah hates those who don't accept Islam.
(Qur'an 30:45, 3:32, 22:38)
JESUS
Said God loves everyone.
(John 3:16)
MUHAMMAD
"I have been commanded to fight
against people till they testify that there
is no god but Allah, and that Muhammad
is the messenger of Allah"
(Muslim 1:33)
JESUS
"He who lives by the sword
will die by the sword."
(Matthew 26:52)
MUHAMMAD
Stoned women for adultery.
(Muslim 4206)
JESUS
"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."
(John 8:7)
MUHAMMAD
Permitted stealing from unbelievers.
(Bukhari 44:668, Ibn Ishaq 764)
JESUS
"Thou shalt not steal."
(Matthew 19:18)
MUHAMMAD
Permitted lying.
(Sahih Muslim 6303, Bukhari 49:857)
JESUS
"Thou shalt not bear false witness."
(Matthew 19:18)
MUHAMMAD
Owned and traded slaves.
(Sahih Muslim 3901)
JESUS
Neither owned nor traded slaves.
MUHAMMAD
Beheaded 800 Jewish men and boys.
(Sahih Muslim 4390)
JESUS
Beheaded no one.
MUHAMMAD
Murdered those who insulted him.
(Bukhari 56:369, 4:241)
JESUS
Preached forgiveness.
(Matthew 18:21-22, 5:38)
MUHAMMAD
"If then anyone transgresses
the prohibition against you,
Transgress ye likewise against him"
(Qur'an 2:194)
JESUS
"If someone strikes you on the right
cheek, turn to him the other also."
(Matthew 5:39)
MUHAMMAD
Jihad in the way of Allah elevates one's position in Paradise by a hundred fold.
(Muslim 4645)
JESUS
"Blessed are the peacemakers, for
they will be called Sons of God"
(Matthew 5:9)
MUHAMMAD
Married 13 wives and kept sex slaves.
(Bukhari 5:268, Qur'an 33:50)
JESUS
Was celibate.
MUHAMMAD
Slept with a 9-year-old child.
(Sahih Muslim 3309, Bukhari 58:236)
JESUS
Did not have sex with children.
MUHAMMAD
Ordered the murder of women.
(Ibn Ishaq 819, 995)
JESUS
Never harmed a woman.
MUHAMMAD
"O you who believe! Fight those of the
unbelievers who are near to you
and let them find in you hardness."
(Qur'an 9:123)
JESUS
"Blessed are the meek, for
they shall inherit the earth."
(Matthew 5:5)
MUHAMMAD
Ordered 65 military campaigns
and raids in his last 10 years.
(Ibn Ishaq )
JESUS
Ordered no military campaigns, nor
offered any approval of war or violence.
MUHAMMAD
Killed captives taken in battle.
(Ibn Ishaq 451)
JESUS
Never took captives.
Never killed anyone.
MUHAMMAD
Encouraged his men to rape enslaved women.
(Abu Dawood 2150, Qur'an 4:24)
JESUS
Never encouraged rape.
Never enslaved women.
MUHAMMAD
Demanded captured slaves and
a fifth of all other loot taken in war.
(Qur'an 8:41)
JESUS
"The Son of Man came not
to be served, but to serve."
(Matthew 20:28)
MUHAMMAD
Was never tortured, but tortured others.
(Muslim 4131, Ibn Ishaq 436, 595, 734, 764)
JESUS
Suffered torture, but never tortured anyone.
MUHAMMAD
"And fight them until there is no more persecution and religion is only for Allah"
(Qur'an 8:39)
JESUS
"Love your enemies and pray
for those who persecute you"
(Matthew 5:44)
MUHAMMAD
Blessed the brutal murder of a half-blind man
(al-Tabari 1440)
JESUS
Healed a blind man
(Mark 8:28)
MUHAMMAD
Ordered a slave to build the very pulpit
from which he preached Islam.
(Bukhari 47:743)
JESUS
Washed his disciples feet.
(John 13:5)
MUHAMMAD
What are the Greatest Commandments?
"Belief in Allah and Jihad in His cause"
(Muslim 1:149)
JESUS
What are the Greatest Commandments?
"Love God and love thy neighbor as thyself."
(Matthew 22:34-40)
MUHAMMAD
Demanded the protection of armed bodyguards, even in a house of worship
(Qur'an 4:102)
JESUS
Chastised anyone attempting
to defend him with force.
(John 18:10-12)
MUHAMMAD
Died fat and wealthy from what was
taken from others in war or
demanded from others in tribute.
JESUS
Demanded nothing for himself.
Died without possessions.
MUHAMMAD
Advocated crucifying others.
(Qur'an 5:33, Muslim 16:4131)
JESUS
Was crucified himself.
MUHAMMAD
According to his followers:
Had others give their lives for him.
(Sahih Muslim 4413)
JESUS
According to his followers:
Gave his life for others.
(John 18:11 and elsewhere)?
Differences Between Islamic Teaching and Christianity
THE QUR'AN
External sources (the Hadith and Sira) necessary for translating the Qur'an
The BIBLE
Historical context contained
within the text of the Bible
THE QUR'AN
Must know Arabic in order to "fully understand" the Qur'an (according to Muslim apologists)
The BIBLE
Universal. Can be translated into other languages without excessive commentary.
THE QUR'AN
Chronological progression of the
Quran is from peace to violence.
The BIBLE
Chronological progression of the
Bible is from violence to peace.
THE QUR'AN
The words 'torture' and 'punishment' appear six
times more often than in the New Testament.
The BIBLE
The word 'love' appears five times more often
in the New Testament than in the Qur'an,
THE QUR'AN
Contains not a single original moral value.
The BIBLE
The 'Sermon on the Mount' and others.
THE QUR'AN
Suffering is an excuse for violent revenge
and establishment of Islam by force
"And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution [of Muslims] is worse than slaughter [of non-believers]...and fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah."
(Qur'an 2:191)
The BIBLE
Suffering builds character
"We also rejoice in our sufferings,
because we know that suffering
produces perseverance; perseverance,
character; and character, hope"
(Romans 5:4)
THE QUR'AN
Emphasis on this World
"And Allah has made you heirs to their land
and their dwellings and their property"
(Qur'an 33:27)
The BIBLE
Emphasis on the Next
"Mine is not a kingdom of this world"
(John 18:36, see also Luke 14:33)
THE QUR'AN
Kill, convert or subjugate Christians and Jews.
(Qur'an 9:29)
The BIBLE
Share one's faith with gentleness and respect.
(1 Peter 3:15)
THE QUR'AN
Martyrs as Killers
"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain"
(Qur'an 9:111)
The BIBLE
Martyrs as Martyrs
"As it is written, For thy sake we are
killed all the day long; we are
counted as sheep for the slaughter"
(Romans 8:36)
THE QUR'AN
Killing Apostates
"They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them"
(Qur'an 4:89, also Bukhari 52:260, 83:37...)
The BIBLE
Letting God Judge Apostates
"For we know Him that has said,
'Vengeance belongs unto me, I will
recompense,' says the Lord. And again,
'The Lord shall judge his people'"
(Hebrews 10:25-30)
THE QUR'AN
Punishment
"Let not compassion move you
from carrying out God's law..."
(Qur'an 24:2)
The BIBLE
Mercy
"Love is patient. Love is kind...
It keeps no record of wrongs"
(1 Corinthians 13:4-5)
THE QUR'AN
Charity and Non-Believers
Mercy toward fellow Muslims - ruthlessness toward unbelievers. Muslims are warned not to befriend those outside the faith. They must even ensure that their charity tithe (zakat)
stays within their own identity group.
(Qur'an 48:29, 3:28, Sharia)
The BIBLE
Charity and Non-Believers
Christians are specifically told that even
those who hate them are entitled to
kindness and charity. They should be loved
and cared for as surely as any fellow believer.
(Mark 10:25-37)
THE QUR'AN
The Qur'an explicitly instructs
men to beat disobedient wives.
(Qur'an 4:34, Sahih Muslim 2127)
The BIBLE
"Husbands, love your wives and
do not be harsh with them."
(No permission to beat women)
(Colossians 3:19)
THE QUR'AN
Explicitly allows Muslim men to rape their female slaves, even those already married.
(Qur'an 4:24, 70:29-30, 23:5-6...)
The BIBLE
Tells masters and slaves to serve
each other as if serving God.
(Ephesians 6:7-9)
THE QUR'AN
Muhammad is the messenger
of Allah. And those who are with him
are ruthless to the unbelievers"
(Qur'an 48:29)
The BIBLE
"Do good to them that hate you"
(Luke 6:27)
THE QUR'AN
Allah wills those that stray and are lost
(Qur'an 16:93)
The BIBLE
God wants all people saved
(1 Timothy 2:4)
THE QUR'AN
Warns Against Questioning Faith.
(Qur'an 5:101-102)
The BIBLE
Welcomes Intellectual Challenge.
(1 Peter 3:15)
THE QUR'AN
Violence as Virtue
"Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye
dislike it. But it is possible that ye
dislike a thing which is good for you, and
that ye love a thing which is bad for you.
But Allah knoweth, and ye know not."
(Qur'an 2:216)
The BIBLE
Violence as Sin
"Do not take revenge, my friends, but
leave room for God's wrath, for it is written:
'It is mine to avenge; I will repay,' says the Lord. On the contrary: 'If your enemy
is hungry, feed him... '"
(Romans 12:19-20)
THE QUR'AN
Hell for unbelief.
Good deeds count for naught
(Qur'an 18:102-107)
The BIBLE
Hell for bad deeds and the
failure to do what is right
(Romans 2:6-8, Matthew 16:27, Matthew 25:41-45)
THE QUR'AN
Judging
"Strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites! Be harsh with them..."
(Qur'an 9:73)
The BIBLE
Judge Not
"For when you pass judgment on another person, you condemn yourself..."
(Romans 2:1)
THE QUR'AN
Taking wealth from others
"Allah promiseth you much
booty that ye will capture..."
(Qur'an 48:20)
The BIBLE
Working for and giving wealth to others
"The thief must no longer steal but must
work hard and do what is good with his
own hands, so that he might have
something to give to the needy."
(Ephesians 4:28)
THE QUR'AN
Calls down Allah's curse on Christians
and those of other religions.
(Qur'an 9:30)
The BIBLE
Calls down God's blessing on
those who curse Christians.
(Matthew 5:44)
THE QUR'AN
Arrogance & Privilege
"Ye are the best of peoples,
evolved for mankind"
(Qur'an 3:110)
The BIBLE
Humility & Servitude
"If anyone wants to be first, he must make himself last of all and servant of all."
(Mark 9:35)
THE QUR'AN
"O you who believe! do not take My
enemy and your enemy for friends:
Would you offer them love while they deny what has come to you of the truth?
(Qur'an 60:1)
The BIBLE
"Love your enemies..."
(Luke 6:27)?
Differences Between the Islamic and Christian-Based Worlds
MUSLIM LEGACY
Countries that Muslims want to escape from.
CHRISTIAN LEGACY
Countries that Muslims want to escape to.
MUSLIM LEGACY
Madrassahs that indoctrinate Muslim
children with bigotry and terror.
CHRISTIAN LEGACY
Mission schools that teach reading and
writing to Christians and Muslims alike.
MUSLIM LEGACY
Suicide bombings for Allah
CHRISTIAN LEGACY
No suicide bombings for Jesus
MUSLIM LEGACY
International terror organizations.
CHRISTIAN LEGACY
International charities.
MUSLIM LEGACY
No formal charities for non-Muslims.
CHRISTIAN LEGACY
Leading provider of disaster relief to Muslims.
MUSLIM LEGACY
Murder of aid workers.
CHRISTIAN LEGACY
Supply of aid workers.
MUSLIM LEGACY
Christians in jail for apostasy or blasphemy.
CHRISTIAN LEGACY
Religious freedom.
MUSLIM LEGACY
Modern-day slavery in the name of Islam.
CHRISTIAN LEGACY
Abolition in the name of Christianity.
MUSLIM LEGACY
Muslim clerics who engage
in or condone terrorism.
CHRISTIAN LEGACY
Christian clerics murdered each year by
terror groups rife with Muslim clerics.
MUSLIM LEGACY
Daily religious violence against Hindus.
CHRISTIAN LEGACY
None.
MUSLIM LEGACY
Daily religious violence against Jews.
CHRISTIAN LEGACY
None.
MUSLIM LEGACY
Daily religious violence against Buddhists.
CHRISTIAN LEGACY
None.
MUSLIM LEGACY
Daily religious violence against Muslims.
CHRISTIAN LEGACY
None.
MUSLIM LEGACY
Ritual slitting of animals' throats
CHRISTIAN LEGACY
Ending of animal sacrifice
MUSLIM LEGACY
Religion
CHRISTIAN LEGACY
Technology & Medicine
MUSLIM LEGACY
Censorship
CHRISTIAN LEGACY
Freedom of speech
MUSLIM LEGACY
Intolerance for criticism of Islam.
CHRISTIAN LEGACY
Tolerance for religious dissent.
MUSLIM LEGACY
Restricting other religions from preaching faith.
CHRISTIAN LEGACY
Allowing all religions the same right to evangelize.
MUSLIM LEGACY
Conversions allowed to Islam only.
CHRISTIAN LEGACY
Freedom of conscience.
MUSLIM LEGACY
Converts to Christianity beheaded.
CHRISTIAN LEGACY
No dead converts to Islam.
MUSLIM LEGACY
Most famous Muslim: Osama bin Laden.
Moderator Notice Hid ridiculous walls of text and banned the sock of the OP. You'll have to do better, dude
September 25, 2015 at 6:17 am (This post was last modified: September 25, 2015 at 6:18 am by pocaracas.)
(September 25, 2015 at 4:40 am)Randy Carson Wrote: When can a new member with less than 30 days and 30 posts link to outside content?
Good question!
I propose the use of an example:
When solving the quadratic equation, ax^2 + bx + c = 0, I think the correct solution is x = ( -b - sqrt(b^2 - 4ac)) / 2a), but also x = ( -b + sqrt(b^2 - 4ac)) / 2a).
I don't know exactly how to get there, or it is rather lengthy to go through all the details in a forum post, but these guys here seem to do a hell of a job explaining all the details: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quadratic_formula.
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Another example:
Wow, it seems Israeli law enforcement forces are being threatened by rocks! Just look at this news story:
Quote:Israel has decided to allow its police troops to fire on Palestinian and other stone-throwers when civilian lives are deemed to be at risk, and not just in self-defense. The Security Cabinet has also approved a 4-year minimum sentence for stone throwing.
Those guys are going to have some dead bodies to answer to, in the near future.
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Another example:
God is real. Here is a video of a first hand personal eye witness account of just how real God is:
I know you guys won't be particularly inclined to watch it so I'll summarize it:
Girl born into christian home, parents get divorced, her mum gets it on with some other guy and bails.. depression ensues.. god swoops in and saves the day... bla bla bla (poca doesn't have the time to listen to it all)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1oZ3Pw0t7A
There are countless other similar stories. How can you atheists not realize that there is really something out there?!
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All of these would be ok.
The main thing is that the links, quotes and videos are used as support for the argument you're making - they're not the entire post. You add your own thoughts, your details, your views... your own words.
Also during your 30/30 period, exterior content clearly generated by the user itself, such as blogs, is seen as advertising, and is removed, even if used as support for the post.
1.Manuscript Evidence. 2.Archaeological Evidence. 3.Eyewitness Accounts. 4.Corroborating Accounts. 5.Literary Consistency. 6.Prophetic Consistency. 7.Expert Scrutiny. 8.Leader Acceptance. 9.Global Influence. 10.Changed Lives 11.God’s character 12.Claim of the Divine Authorship 13.Unity of the Bible 14.Fulfilled prophecy
Call me a liar?Do the research yourself. Why quran is false here are some reasons l Before Muhammad the Arabs had 365 gods - one for each day of the year. Muhammad picked Allah (the Arab moon god). l Muslims DO NOT pray to the same God (Yahweh/ Jehovah of Holy Scripture) of Christians and Jews! l Historical errors in the Qur'an l Muhammed was a sexual pervert l Muhammed himself was not sure if was going to heaven l Muhammed was a raper l Muhammed taught It was ok to have intercourse,with girls under puberty. l Muhammed had intercourse with 9 yrs old Aisha l Muhammed spread Islam by the sword. l Muhammed had 14 wive’s l Muhammed took some part’s of the old testament,and mixed it with some of his own pagan ideas. l Muhammed taught that it is ok for wive’s to be beat l Muhammed gave order’s,for his army after a battle they can take women from each,captured area for there personal use. Want to know more,do the research yourself