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RE: the hammer of homosexuality
October 12, 2015 at 7:35 pm
(October 12, 2015 at 7:20 pm)robvalue Wrote: God clearly has no power at all if he needs empty headed bigots running around persecuting people in his absence. If he's there, and he has such a problem with it, let him deal with it directly. He is a god, remember.
Or is he just a mascot?
He is a mascot rob and mascot with no powers and no will of his own to do anything anymore.
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RE: the hammer of homosexuality
October 12, 2015 at 7:41 pm
(October 12, 2015 at 6:21 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote: (October 12, 2015 at 5:36 pm)ronedee Wrote: LOL! I don't care about your prison life it has nothing to do w/ our exchanges here, but to make you look like you have something to prove. Suffice it to say, your
list of bs is nothing compared to what I've been through in my life... but I don't feel the need to relay it to you. And frankly it's none of your fucking business.
If you want to go on in an intelligent conversation, drop the shit and name calling. Otherwise find another sounding board for your apparent need to polish your manhood!
Most of you here in this thread don't know me. And I won't engage your questions unless they are free of name calling, and outrageous speculation. What's the point? You have your minds made up about me, and what I have to say. I'll just do drive-by shoots.... that's more fun any way! 
Rocket, I think you broke ronedee.
Nah, can't break the broken. On that note, I'm off to "polish my manhood" (whatever that means).
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RE: the hammer of homosexuality
October 12, 2015 at 7:51 pm
(October 12, 2015 at 7:41 pm)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: (October 12, 2015 at 6:21 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote: Rocket, I think you broke ronedee.
Nah, can't break the broken. On that note, I'm off to "polish my manhood" (whatever that means).
I thought everyone knew what that means. 
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RE: the hammer of homosexuality
October 13, 2015 at 12:17 am
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(October 12, 2015 at 6:58 pm)Mermaid Wrote: (October 12, 2015 at 3:34 am)ronedee Wrote: Bible for the moment aside, and for the sake of argument; Homosexuality is a mental illness, its been medically proven study after study.
That's a complete lie.
Here is an unbiased piece on "why" the APA dropped homosexuality from its list of mental illnesses. Its NOT because of any further medical studies! It was
because of political pressure put on the committee, who passed the resolution with only a 55% vote. What this proves is that the lobby effects did their job
without the need for any medical data. And there hasn't been a study, or research since. At least in this country....obviously!
But, there are many studies that were done in the early to mid 20th century throughout the globe with evidence strong enough to suggest; that at the
very least more psychological & biological research were necessary to justify homosexual behavior as normal and natural for humans.
In the comments below the piece, a "William Parsons" sites some sources during his exchanges for further research. And he also adds his own very
thought provoking commentary on the purely carnal driven, and abnormal aspects of the actions by, and relationships between same sex partners!
Homosexuality: The Mental Illness That Went Away
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RE: the hammer of homosexuality
October 13, 2015 at 12:20 am
(October 13, 2015 at 12:17 am)ronedee Wrote: Here is an unbiased piece on "why" the APA dropped homosexuality from its list of mental illnesses. Its NOT because of any further medical studies! It was
because of political pressure put on the committee, who passed the resolution with only a 55% vote. What this proves is that the lobby effects did their job
without the need for any medical data. And there hasn't been a study, or research since. At least in this country....obviously!
Fucking bullshit.
Plenty of studies have continued to be done.
You are just being an ignorant twat for the sake of retaining your religious superiority which only makes you despised rather than respected for admitting defeat on a subject because of a pride you cannot release.
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RE: the hammer of homosexuality
October 13, 2015 at 12:24 am
(October 13, 2015 at 12:20 am)Kitan Wrote: (October 13, 2015 at 12:17 am)ronedee Wrote: Here is an unbiased piece on "why" the APA dropped homosexuality from its list of mental illnesses. Its NOT because of any further medical studies! It was
because of political pressure put on the committee, who passed the resolution with only a 55% vote. What this proves is that the lobby effects did their job
without the need for any medical data. And there hasn't been a study, or research since. At least in this country....obviously!
Fucking bullshit.
Plenty of studies have continued to be done.
You are just being an ignorant twat for the sake of retaining your religious superiority which only makes you despised rather than respected for admitting defeat on a subject because of a pride you cannot release.
WoW! You are quite the speed reader with your limited vocabulary and all! bravo!
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RE: the hammer of homosexuality
October 13, 2015 at 12:26 am
Um, I don't think you read that entire article. Here's his conclusion:
Quote:The overall point being that the APA’s taxonomy is nothing more than self-serving nonsense. Real illnesses are not banished by voting or by fiat, but by valid science and hard work. There are no mental illnesses. Rather, there are people. We have problems; we have orientations; we have habits; we have perspectives. Sometimes we do well, other times we make a mess of things. We are complicated. Our feelings fluctuate with our circumstances, from the depths of despondency to the pinnacles of bliss. And perhaps, most of all, we are individuals. DSM’s facile and self-serving attempt to medicalize human problems is an institutionalized insult to human dignity. The homosexual community has managed to liberate themselves from psychiatric oppression. But there are millions of people worldwide who are still being damaged, stigmatized, and disempowered by this pernicious system to this day.
(Bold emphasis my own.)
His article was not saying that Homosexuals are ill, he is saying that the APA's process of classifying mental issues in general is bogus. There's nothing in that article that suggests the author feels that homosexuals were ever properly classified as mentally ill. He is saying that none of the categories described by the APA are valid.
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RE: the hammer of homosexuality
October 13, 2015 at 12:26 am
Actually, cursing is not a sign or limited vocabulary. Another study, of which I am certain you are not aware, was done which showed cursing is quite the sign of intelligence.
You might try it sometime.
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RE: the hammer of homosexuality
October 13, 2015 at 12:27 am
(October 13, 2015 at 12:17 am)ronedee Wrote: (October 12, 2015 at 6:58 pm)Mermaid Wrote: That's a complete lie.
Here is an unbiased piece on "why" the APA dropped homosexuality from its list of mental illnesses. Its NOT because of any further medical studies! It was
because of political pressure put on the committee, who passed the resolution with only a 55% vote. What this proves is that the lobby effects did their job
without the need for any medical data. And there hasn't been a study, or research since. At least in this country....obviously!
You fucking idiot......
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RE: the hammer of homosexuality
October 13, 2015 at 12:29 am
(October 13, 2015 at 12:26 am)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: Um, I don't think you read that entire article. Here's his conclusion:
Quote:The overall point being that the APA’s taxonomy is nothing more than self-serving nonsense. Real illnesses are not banished by voting or by fiat, but by valid science and hard work. There are no mental illnesses. Rather, there are people. We have problems; we have orientations; we have habits; we have perspectives. Sometimes we do well, other times we make a mess of things. We are complicated. Our feelings fluctuate with our circumstances, from the depths of despondency to the pinnacles of bliss. And perhaps, most of all, we are individuals. DSM’s facile and self-serving attempt to medicalize human problems is an institutionalized insult to human dignity. The homosexual community has managed to liberate themselves from psychiatric oppression. But there are millions of people worldwide who are still being damaged, stigmatized, and disempowered by this pernicious system to this day.
(Bold emphasis my own.)
His article was not saying that Homosexuals are ill, he is saying that the APA's process of classifying mental issues in general is bogus. There's nothing in that article that suggests the author feels that homosexuals were ever properly classified as mentally ill. He is saying that none of the categories described by the APA are valid. Where did I say the author said they were ill?
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