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RE: the hammer of homosexuality
October 15, 2015 at 3:35 am
(October 15, 2015 at 3:20 am)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: (October 14, 2015 at 9:37 am)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: Check your genitals. They will tell you what kind of pie is Godly.
What if I don't want Enormous Cock Pie?
Ah, c'mon mate, pull the other one!
Everyone wants Enormous Cock Pie.
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I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
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RE: the hammer of homosexuality
October 15, 2015 at 4:30 am
(October 15, 2015 at 3:07 am)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: It was supposed to include a "fisting" joke, but I guess that one flopped. I s'pose "flaming" is plenty enough.
The whole concept of "the hammer of homosexuality", as the OP suggested is a weapon that will help to defeat Christianity by showing their bigotry and ignorance, is unfortunately short-sighted, in my opinion.
Just like they did with slavery, once the generation that fiercely defended Biblical inerrancy on the subject dies off, the following generations will change their minds, and then time will forget that the old generation existed. They will declare that they were always against homophobia, just as modern Christians refuse to acknowledge that the US Civil War was motivated in large part by Southern Christians who felt that the Bible specifically required permanent, heritable, race-based slavery (Leviticus 25:44-46, among others). In another generation, you'll have a hard time finding a Christian under 60 who is anti-gay; in another generation you'll have young Christians telling you there was never any serious Christian homophobia, just a few miscreants who weren't "real" Christians.
By then, I'm sure there'll be some other major issue for the religion to dig up and attack as the latest, greatest crisis their leaders assure them is setting the nation "against God", and which will let them vent their fear, prejudice, and myopia in a way that causes them to be able to feel morally superior while basking in their willful ignorance.
And, just like today, they'll have good-hearted Christians apologizing on their behalf.
you are probably right and i did think about that but I can dream right?
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RE: the hammer of homosexuality
October 15, 2015 at 4:35 am
(This post was last modified: October 15, 2015 at 4:37 am by robvalue.)
I think Christianity is slowly throttling itself in its contorted attempts to prove it is still of any relevance. All we need do is keep promoting rational thought and be patient. It seems each generation is less prone to swallowing the bullshit than the last, in general.
When you look at the standard of what has become modern apologetics, it is essentially playing stupid word games. They have retreated so far from reality and honest debate that they will be of no interest to anyone not already brainwashed.
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RE: the hammer of homosexuality
October 15, 2015 at 9:46 am
(October 15, 2015 at 3:20 am)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: (October 14, 2015 at 9:37 am)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: Check your genitals. They will tell you what kind of pie is Godly.
What if I don't want Enormous Cock Pie?
Infidel! Blasphemer!
You just don't want Enormous Cock Pie because you're angry at penis!
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
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RE: the hammer of homosexuality
October 15, 2015 at 11:59 am
(October 15, 2015 at 4:35 am)robvalue Wrote: I think Christianity is slowly throttling itself in its contorted attempts to prove it is still of any relevance. All we need do is keep promoting rational thought and be patient. It seems each generation is less prone to swallowing the bullshit than the last, in general.
When you look at the standard of what has become modern apologetics, it is essentially playing stupid word games. They have retreated so far from reality and honest debate that they will be of no interest to anyone not already brainwashed.
Moreover, many other religious institutions are becoming more shrill, pulling a No True Christian. So, on the one side you have certain groups reluctantly trying to modernize, on the other you have certain groups becoming more militant, with their message becoming wholly unpalatable to the masses. In both cases, they push themselves to extinction, either by slowly becoming more mundane and not unique apart from mainstream culture, or by ostracizing themselves because they're batshit crazy and dangerous and no sane society will put up with them.
Once the rug is pulled out from under prosperity gospel (which, IIRC is the only from of Christianity that has gained members), I think we'll see a pretty rapid decline.
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RE: the hammer of homosexuality
October 15, 2015 at 12:16 pm
Good point. The huge gulf between beliefs in supposedly the same religion, and infighting about doctrine has to present an image of incompetence to new potentials.
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RE: the hammer of homosexuality
October 17, 2015 at 12:07 am
So the homosexual issue is one of butt many hammers.
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RE: the hammer of homosexuality
October 17, 2015 at 9:43 am
Damn I get horny reading this thread
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RE: the hammer of homosexuality
October 17, 2015 at 9:46 am
There are hornier threads...
... I still need to get my ass into A-69
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RE: the hammer of homosexuality
October 17, 2015 at 9:47 am
Any post where TRS uses the word 'cock' really gets me going.
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