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RE: I don't understand, why do Christians not like Masturbation or porn
December 10, 2015 at 10:21 am
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(December 9, 2015 at 11:13 pm)TrueChristian Wrote: ^ You are probably lying. Anyway even if it were true, you took advantage of a young lady and her impressionable nature, putting nasty things in her mind that likely never would have occured to her on her own.
Wow. Could you be more patronizing toward women and the range of their sexual self-awareness and their proclivities? It just might be true that your Bible-based vanilla ideas about sex aren't the last word on the subject, after all.
Quote:Did you treat her like a lady, or potnential "Wife material?" No. Not at all.
One of them is my wife, you presumptuous, prudish fuck.
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RE: I don't understand, why do Christians not like Masturbation or porn
December 10, 2015 at 11:39 am
(December 10, 2015 at 1:00 am)Evie Wrote: Either that or he's a Poe atheist who actually has no problem with porn at all and he's fucking with us.
TC does seem kind of Poeish. If not on this thread, then on other ones.
I assumed he was a poe. Seems pretty obvious.
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RE: I don't understand, why do Christians not like Masturbation or porn
December 10, 2015 at 4:57 pm
(October 25, 2015 at 5:03 am)godzilla_22 Wrote: Why is it that things like Masturbation or appreciating the beauty of the female body considered bad in the realm of Christianity? Is it really just another form of a control?
There are two passages used to say masturbation is bad in the Bible. The first is the one Robvalue mentioned about Onan spilling his seed (also used to forbid contraception).
The other is from the New Testament where Jesus says that looking at a woman lustfully is as bad as adultery, followed immediately by a passage saying it's better to cut off a hand or an eye that causes you to sin and enter heaven maimed than keep the part and go to hell... Of course, without masturbation explicitly listed as a sin, the whole "hand causing you to sin" thing is actually a circular argument; however, most people tend to think naughty thoughts when playing with themselves, so a Christian could make a straight-faced argument that the lustful thoughts are the sin, and not the self-induced orgasm.
Short answer: a lot of cultural baggage based very loosely on the Bible.
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RE: I don't understand, why do Christians not like Masturbation or porn
December 10, 2015 at 5:12 pm
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How difficult would it be to achieve a self-induced orgasm, without lustful or sexual thoughts of any kind? Possible, but extremely difficult, I would imagine...probably requires monk-like focus and concentration.
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RE: I don't understand, why do Christians not like Masturbation or porn
December 10, 2015 at 5:31 pm
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(December 10, 2015 at 5:12 pm)Thena323 Wrote: How difficult would it be to achieve a self-induced orgasm, without lustful or sexual thoughts of any kind? Possible, but extremely difficult, I would imagine...probably requires monk-like focus and concentration.
Thoughts without contact is easier than contact without thoughts. Arousal is paramount.
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RE: I don't understand, why do Christians not like Masturbation or porn
December 10, 2015 at 6:15 pm
(December 10, 2015 at 5:31 pm)Evie Wrote: (December 10, 2015 at 5:12 pm)Thena323 Wrote: How difficult would it be to achieve a self-induced orgasm, without lustful or sexual thoughts of any kind? Possible, but extremely difficult, I would imagine...probably requires monk-like focus and concentration.
Thoughts without contact is easier than contact without thoughts. Arousal is paramount.
Stimulation is paramount-er.
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RE: I don't understand, why do Christians not like Masturbation or porn
December 10, 2015 at 6:48 pm
Without arousal it's like scrubbing sandpaper.
I'm pretty sure both are paramount.
Let's just say I've never had an orgasm without arousal but I have had one without stimulation: Wet dreams.
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RE: I don't understand, why do Christians not like Masturbation or porn
December 10, 2015 at 6:56 pm
That's why I stated it must be extremely challenging. Someone should try it and report back.
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RE: I don't understand, why do Christians not like Masturbation or porn
December 10, 2015 at 7:33 pm
I can safely say I have never succeeded at it. And yes I have tried. I end up lasting for ages and eventually lose interest.
Then when I put my mind to it again, I can maintain interest and finish.
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RE: I don't understand, why do Christians not like Masturbation or porn
December 10, 2015 at 7:52 pm
Interesting. What non-sexual thoughts were you thinking about, if you don't mind my asking?
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