RE: Biblical Christianity 101, a study of the book of Romans
October 29, 2015 at 4:28 pm
(This post was last modified: October 29, 2015 at 4:57 pm by Minimalist.)
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Biblical Christianity 101, a study of the book of Romans
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The bible makes for great bird cage liner.
"For the only way to eternal glory is a life lived in service of our Lord, FSM; Verily it is FSM who is the perfect being the name higher than all names, king of all kings and will bestow upon us all, one day, The great reclaiming" -The Prophet Boiardi-
Conservative trigger warning.
Hey, birds need something to read when they shit, too.
(October 29, 2015 at 4:58 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Hey, birds need something to read when they shit, too. Right, but shouldn't they at least be reading something of quality? Like Marmaduke or something?
Verbatim from the mouth of Jesus (retranslated from a retranslation of a copy of a copy):
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42) Also, I has a website: www.RedbeardThePink.com (October 29, 2015 at 6:02 pm)Redbeard The Pink Wrote:(October 29, 2015 at 4:58 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Hey, birds need something to read when they shit, too. My parrot prefers Ziggy
"For the only way to eternal glory is a life lived in service of our Lord, FSM; Verily it is FSM who is the perfect being the name higher than all names, king of all kings and will bestow upon us all, one day, The great reclaiming" -The Prophet Boiardi-
Conservative trigger warning.
RE: Biblical Christianity 101, a study of the book of Romans
October 29, 2015 at 10:38 pm
(This post was last modified: October 29, 2015 at 10:39 pm by GrandizerII.)
(October 29, 2015 at 12:28 pm)Drich Wrote:(October 29, 2015 at 11:20 am)Irrational Wrote: Paul was living quite a privileged life to be honest. Who exactly had the power and will to torture him at the time? The Romans didn't care back then, did they? Ok, suppose it's true that he was beheaded (Hard to tell if this was true or not), what exactly is special about that again? If he had schizophrenia and truly believed his views (even though they're not true), he would've still let himself be executed. Lots of people out there who are ready to die for all sorts of beliefs. This isn't something exclusive to Christians. RE: Biblical Christianity 101, a study of the book of Romans
October 30, 2015 at 4:16 am
(This post was last modified: October 30, 2015 at 4:20 am by robvalue.)
Not more of this die for a lie shit? How many times!
Something doesn't have to be a lie to be untrue. People can be mistaken. And when you're mistaken, you don't know you're mistaken, because you're mistaken. It's only a lie when you deliberately mislead someone. Why do some people think no one from that era could ever be mistaken? What this broken argument is sneakily trying to say is no one would die for a falsehood. That's not the same thing, as it assumes everyone is aware at all times which of their beliefs are actually true. This is clearly not the case, and can never be the case. Feel free to send me a private message.
Please visit my website here! It's got lots of information about atheism/theism and support for new atheists. Index of useful threads and discussions Index of my best videos Quickstart guide to the forum (October 30, 2015 at 4:16 am)robvalue Wrote: Not more of this die for a lie shit? How many times! At least in the case of the death and resurrection of Jesus, I think that a mistake is unlikely. Remember, that the distinction that is being made is not just what is believed to be true, but people who are claiming to have seen what they are reporting. Jesus death was public, and it is likely Romans would have ensured that the sentence was carried out. Also in that culture, you didn't send a dead body to a funeral home, so those closest to him, would have personally prepared the body for burial. As to the resurrection, what is going to lead to mistakes is a lack of familiarity, proximity, or time. I don't think that any of these are lacking in the account of Jesus's resurrection that would allow for the claim that they where just mistaken. There are also multiple testimonies so multiple people would need to be mistaken in the same way. Why do you think that they where mistaken? I agree that people can be mistaken about what they believe. And that we may/do not know when we are mistaken. But I don't think that gives us license to just assume that what we do not want to believe is a mistake. If that where the case, and I didn't want to believe the genome comparisons show's 95-98% similarity between humans and chimps, then I might assume a mistake was made, and come up with a story that what was really compared was Chip's DNA who is a bartender on the corner. So humans are really 95-99% similar to Chip the bartender and not chimpanzee's. However, I have no support or evidence for my story, and it is not a matter of reason, but my not wanting to accept the evidence.
It is way more likely they were mistaken, or just plain made it up. People get mistaken all the time. They also make things up all the time.
It was also written by non-eye witnesses 30 years after the event, so they didn't see anything. They heard rumours. Feel free to send me a private message.
Please visit my website here! It's got lots of information about atheism/theism and support for new atheists. Index of useful threads and discussions Index of my best videos Quickstart guide to the forum (October 30, 2015 at 7:51 am)robvalue Wrote: It is way more likely they were mistaken, or just plain made it up. People get mistaken all the time. They also make things up all the time. Why? Do you have any support for your assertions here? |
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