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RE: Here's why Creatards might be right
October 30, 2015 at 7:08 am
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What does "formerly applied" mean? I'm not trying to be difficult, your use of words is very strange to me. I've never heard anyone use "design" without some sort of intelligence doing the designing; it's a verb. At least some sort of agent.
What is the noun associated with the verb "design"?
"A design" usually means the result of an agent doing a design. Even if the agent isn't sentient, there's still an agent or else there is no verb.
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RE: Here's why Creatards might be right
October 30, 2015 at 7:14 am
I don't know what or who that agent is.
That's why I stick with just "design".
(AHA! So you do agree that there is a design)
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RE: Here's why Creatards might be right
October 30, 2015 at 7:19 am
If by an unconscious Big Bang spewing out plasma randomly you mean design, then yes!
But you are not using the term correctly.
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RE: Here's why Creatards might be right
October 30, 2015 at 7:28 am
(October 30, 2015 at 7:14 am)pool Wrote: I don't know what or who that agent is.
That's why I stick with just "design".
(AHA! So you do agree that there is a design)
Did you even read rob's post? Or did you cherry pick the last sentence?
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RE: Here's why Creatards might be right
October 30, 2015 at 7:37 am
I think I'm going to have to give up.
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RE: Here's why Creatards might be right
October 30, 2015 at 8:44 am
Its looking like that.
There has yet to be a creationist/design proponent that I have met that has shown even a high schooler's understanding of evolution, and usually that's intentional. (I was going to make a design pun here, but pool might cherry pick that, too.)
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RE: Here's why Creatards might be right
October 30, 2015 at 9:24 am
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(October 30, 2015 at 12:56 am)jenny1972 Wrote: anyways im going to bed its almost 1am here good night everyone i cant help Intelligent Design just makes more sense especially considering the fact that God exists goodnight everyone see you all tomorrow in one thread or another here i really like all of you guys a lot im glad i came across this website
Jesus christ, who cares if god does exist..still doesn't have anything to do with evolution. These two conjectures of yours, that god exists and that ID is really, really real...they aren't connected. You don't have to belive in ID..just because you believe in god.....and if you could demonstrate ID, which you can't...you still wouldn't have demonstrated a god. Have a little fucking respect for your own beliefs, and stop turning your god into a running joke, shitposter.
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RE: Here's why Creatards might be right
October 30, 2015 at 11:05 am
(October 30, 2015 at 7:08 am)robvalue Wrote: What does "formerly applied" mean? I'm not trying to be difficult, your use of words is very strange to me. I've never heard anyone use "design" without some sort of intelligence doing the designing; it's a verb. At least some sort of agent.
What is the noun associated with the verb "design"?
"A design" usually means the result of an agent doing a design. Even if the agent isn't sentient, there's still an agent or else there is no verb.
Quote:Formerly defined parameters for execution. -> Design
"This is how particles interact,period." -> Design
Do you understand what I mean now?
Formerly in the sense that the parameters were fed before the execution.
Or to speak in normal tongue - "This is how particles interact,period" existed before the big bang
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RE: Here's why Creatards might be right
October 30, 2015 at 11:12 am
"This is how particles interact" existed both before the particles existed, and before the event that determined how they would react existed? GL with that.
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RE: Here's why Creatards might be right
October 30, 2015 at 11:28 am
(October 30, 2015 at 11:12 am)Rhythm Wrote: "This is how particles interact" existed both before the particles existed, and before the event that determined how they would react existed? GL with that.
"This is how particles interact" existed before the big explosion. It makes sense because before the big explosion there were particles and they'd have to follow the "This is how particles interact" for the explosion to take place in the first place 
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