Double standard when it comes to terrorism

[Wyrd of Gawd]

Sure, there's a double standard. The most dangerous terrorist groups in america are right wing extremists groups, but you don't see that covered on Fox, do you?

Actually the most dangerous terrorist group in the US is the police.

[The Grand Nudger]

Some of the folks in this thread need to go check the definition of the word terrorist.  The US is many unsavory things, as the police in the US can be many unsavory things.  Neither we, nor our police forces, actually qualify as terrorists. That cheapens what it means to be a terrorist, and draws attention away from -actual- terrorism.

Atlas, they've read your book....it offers no resistance to them, they're not "coming up against" anything in there. They're carrying it out. I appreciate that you aren't onboard, but.....

[Chad32]

Sure, there's a double standard. The most dangerous terrorist groups in america are right wing extremists groups, but you don't see that covered on Fox, do you?

Actually the most dangerous terrorist group in the US is the police.

Yeah, but that's a different fucking thread.

[downbeatplumb]

Some of the folks in this thread need to go check the definition of the word terrorist.  The US is many unsavory things, as the police in the US can be many unsavory things.  Neither we, nor our police forces, actually qualify as terrorists.  That cheapens what it means to be a terrorist, and draws attention away from -actual- terrorism.

Atlas, they've read your book....it offers no resistance to them, they're not "coming up against" anything in there.  They're carrying it out.  I appreciate that you aren't onboard, but.....

I don't know the koran but I would guess that for every peaceful passage there is a violent one so people will get out of it what they want.
It is after all based on the bible.

[Regina]

Terrorism is the use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims (official definition). Taking that into account, The KKK and Dylann Roof are terrorists. They killed in the attempt to advance the political ideology of white supremacy.

The "double standard" is that WASPs (white, Anglo-Saxon Protestants) can distance themself from The KKK and Dylann Roof and claim absolutely no connection to it, while in the same breath some of them will try to hold all Muslims accountable for the actions of Al-Qaeda and ISIS. If you want to hold all Muslims accountable for the extremists, then if you are a WASP you also have to hold yourself accountable for The KKK.

A big problem with both the political right and the pro-Islam left - they both fail to see Islamism as exactly the same far-right political ideology as ultraconservative evangelical Christianity. This ideology is to Islam what The Westboro Baptist Church are to American Christians. It's exactly the same principle, it's people on the political right pushing for religion to have a bigger role in politics and public life. The Islamic right-wing will appear "more violent" because it faces less challenges to it's power and goes unchecked, while the Christian right-wing is more reigned in.

[The Grand Nudger]

No, it is not, you've missed a significant distinction.  Soldiers use violence and intimidation, and are not, by doing so, terrorists.  It is also -who- you use that violence against.  There's no need for me to distance myself from the KKK, as I do not share even one piece of their ideology. If I were a non-violent white supremecist who..quixotically, didn't think my white supremecism should be the ruling paradigm, I would need to distance myself - as the average muslims need to distance themselves from muslim terrorists.  If the manner in which I distanced myself was "the kkk aren't true white supremecists™" I would expect to be called out on my bullshit.  

So should they.

No one is blaming islam for "what brown people do", so stow all the race-baiting WASP shit, thanks. People are blaming islam for what muslims do. Generally, we don't even need to blame them, because they claim responsibility for it, and go so far as to do so in the name of their -shared- god. That's why -they- say they did it, and they give us every reason to trust this claim. End of.

[Wyrd of Gawd]

Actually the most dangerous terrorist group in the US is the police.

Yeah, but that's a different fucking thread.

Why is the most dangerous terrorist group off limits in a thread about double standards when it comes to terrorism?

That proves that there's a double standard.

[Wyrd of Gawd]

Some of the folks in this thread need to go check the definition of the word terrorist.  The US is many unsavory things, as the police in the US can be many unsavory things.  Neither we, nor our police forces, actually qualify as terrorists.  That cheapens what it means to be a terrorist, and draws attention away from -actual- terrorism.

Atlas, they've read your book....it offers no resistance to them, they're not "coming up against" anything in there.  They're carrying it out.  I appreciate that you aren't onboard, but.....

Are you really claiming that Bull Connor wasn't a terrorist?

[The Grand Nudger]

Are you really claiming to be responding to something I said, lol?

[Chad32]

Yeah, but that's a different fucking thread.

Why is the most dangerous terrorist group off limits in a thread about double standards when it comes to terrorism?

That proves that there's a double standard.

There's a different thread relating exclusively to the police. It's not a double standard. It's just probably best to talk about other terrorist groups in this thread instead of turning it into fucking cops III.