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November 26, 2015 at 5:15 am
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I was in a chat room last night, it was funny arguing with this guy. This guy was trying to tell me, because atheists believe in nothing, atheism doesn't exist. He kept telling me that I should try to define what god is, I was telling him that I can't because it's whatever's made up in someone's head. It's hilarious the shit that these people make up, he was telling me that "atheism is a lot like a religion", so I read him the definition of religion and he's like "okay so who made that definition?" I'm like fuck talking to this guy, jesus Christ. Eventually through getting interrupted a shit load of times, I eventually asked him if he believed there was a unicorn in the closet behind me, to which I told him he's an atheist to the unicorn. The guy was fucking high off his ass on something. When we got finished with the argument he was just bobbing his head to music with this big stupid grin on his face. It's funny how he thought he was so right, he'd be like "you'll understand some day." What a fucking mind rapist. You should have heard him argue about music though.
He was also trying to tell me that atheism is a belief just like believing in god. I'm like, how do you call atheism a belief if you don't believe in god? I was repeating this over and over, "you either believe in god, or you don't. If you don't then you're an atheist". Then the self righteous attitude, ugh. UGH. To think that he sat there, accusing me of thinking I know everything, accusing me of spewing shit out of my mouth for a half hour.
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November 26, 2015 at 5:35 am
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I guess if these guys constantly throw out stupid garbage, there's no danger of their logic circuits engaging at any point. Just how they like it.
And no, default atheism is not a belief. It's a lack of a belief. It's the default position, that you are not committed to saying God does or does not exist. Some people literally can't understand this, though.
It's like being on the jury. Say you've heard all evidence so far, and you don't feel convinced the defendant is guilty, but neither do you feel convinced that he's innocent. You're undecided. You're reserving judgement. There is no compulsion to have to consider any statement true or false, you can just say I'm not sure which it is.
That is weak atheism. Of course, many atheists will go further and say they do believe there is no God (strong atheism), in other words they will say yes, the guy is innocent. You can do so without also having to claim absolute knowledge of this. A complete absence of any evidence remotely linking the person to the crime, after the prosecution has spent hours throwing out irrelevancies, would be reasonable grounds for such a conclusion. Especially if the prosecution claims the defendant used "mind powers" to commit the murder, without ever properly saying what these powers are supposed to be; and then every witness for the prosecution tells contradictory versions of events, which overlap only on this idea of "mind magic" which they all describe totally differently.
I think I'd be confident saying the guy is innocent and this is some sort of lynching by people with a slender grip on reality.
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November 26, 2015 at 8:34 am
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I love these quotes:
James Randy - No amount of belief makes something a fact
Christopher Hitchens - That which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence
It just seems absurd to say I "believed god out of existence" like oh if you just believe hard enough, god will go away. I don't believe in the concept because it's fucking retarded.
Every single person's own god is whatever they make up. The guy was asking me to define god and I told him, it's different for everyone, it's whatever you want god to be. Your god is really just a reflection of your own thoughts and feelings. Do I believe that if I were to acknowledge those thoughts and feelings, that I believed up myself, untrue, then would I believe that god doesn't exist? It just seems like a massive false paradigm, which gives way to the "possibility" of there being a god. It's not "I believe god doesn't exist", it's "I believe god is a massive delusion. The believer's god is just his thoughts and feelings".
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November 26, 2015 at 8:50 am
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November 26, 2015 at 11:49 am
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quote by dr. house: If you could reason with religious people, there would be no religious people.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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November 29, 2015 at 3:24 pm
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November 29, 2015 at 3:42 pm
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November 29, 2015 at 5:52 pm
Your 'friend' appears to be made of equal parts ignorance and idiocy. His quote, 'it is the Father who generates, the Son who is begotten, and the Holy Spirit who proceeds' is from the Profession of Faith in the Catechism of the Catholic Church. It is not to be found in the Bible.
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November 30, 2015 at 4:44 am
(November 15, 2015 at 9:29 am)DespondentFishdeathMasochismo Wrote: From the Bible:
"it is the Father who generates, the Son who is begotten, and the Holy Spirit who proceeds." I'm really quite certain he pulled that Bible quote out of his ass.
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