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RE: Harris' take on the recent events in Paris
November 17, 2015 at 1:14 am
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(November 16, 2015 at 5:09 pm)abaris Wrote: (November 16, 2015 at 12:30 am)RaphielDrake Wrote: I respect Harris. Hes willings to take as many hits as it takes to get his point out there.
EDIT: Hes got a podcast now? I feel old.
Read his political essays on Iraq and torture from the first decade of this century. Watch the interview he gave Cenk Uigur. The whole uncut 3 hours, so there's no manipulating. I did, and I don't respect Harris at all for the above.
Harris constantly points out how violent the muslim book is and denies that the OT contains at least as violent passages. That's either uninformed or totally dishonest. Either way, Harris is a propagandist, who's rather leaninng to the right on most issues.
The only instance where I considered what Harris had to say, were his comments in "The god who wasn't there".
I watched that interview too. It seemed to me that Harris wasn't saying it had more violent parts in it than the Bible, simply that it had nowhere near enough push back from contradictory verses promoting peace. It becomes extremely difficult to stay within the confines of the text without being violent or having a violent world view.
The contradictions in the Bible we're keen to point out are actually a huge part of the reason why Christianity calmed down. You give anyone whos even half rational a loophole they'll choose the easier path of peace to heaven rather than the path of genocide and war.
If a similar change doesn't occur then there will be no calming down.
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RE: Harris' take on the recent events in Paris
November 17, 2015 at 6:01 am
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That's interesting. Very interesting. So is it the general consensus that the bible is more contradictory than the Quran? I'm very familiar with the bible, but much less so with the Quran. The bible is one long tangled web of contradictions, so that any required outcome can be easily supported. Maybe not so much with the Quran?
If that is indeed the case, I can totally see how Christianity would be easier to muzzle. Give people loop holes and they will slither through them to fit the situation.
Wow. I'd never considered this before.
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RE: Harris' take on the recent events in Paris
November 17, 2015 at 10:16 am
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He's not only honest, incredibly intelligent, articulate and a brilliant, brilliant writer but he sets himself apart from the rest by publicly speaking out against Islamism when clearly it's such a poisonous and controversial subject. And what does he get for that. Idiots upon idiots who misrepresent his views, I would argue almost knowingly, and try to smear him as much as they can at any opportunity. This is a disgrace and it's as destructive a mode of operating as religion itself.
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RE: Harris' take on the recent events in Paris
November 17, 2015 at 10:25 am
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He's also extremely brave, I wouldn't be surprised if at some point he had to go into hiding for being so outspokenly anti-Islam.
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RE: Harris' take on the recent events in Paris
November 17, 2015 at 10:26 am
(November 17, 2015 at 10:16 am)excitedpenguin Wrote: Idiots upon idiots who misrepresent his views, I would argue almost knowingly, and try to smear him as much as they can at any opportunity.
I would say so too. Did you listen to that full video I posted?
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RE: Harris' take on the recent events in Paris
November 17, 2015 at 10:30 am
Yes, I already did, right after it came out. He kind of lost his composure there for a moment. I don't even know why he talked to Kyle, to be honest. I find him annoying in his intellectual cowardice and short-sightedness.
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RE: Harris' take on the recent events in Paris
November 17, 2015 at 10:36 am
(November 17, 2015 at 12:10 am)excitedpenguin Wrote: (November 16, 2015 at 10:55 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: Sorry, found it boring.
See, this is kind of annoying. Nobody really cares that you found it boring. But, hey, please let us know when we obviously don't care. That's just great. Keep those useless statements coming. Cancer isn't going to cure itself, you know.
Sorry, boring.
I don't have an anger problem, I have an idiot problem.
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RE: Harris' take on the recent events in Paris
November 17, 2015 at 11:03 am
(November 17, 2015 at 10:36 am)mh.brewer Wrote: (November 17, 2015 at 12:10 am)excitedpenguin Wrote: See, this is kind of annoying. Nobody really cares that you found it boring. But, hey, please let us know when we obviously don't care. That's just great. Keep those useless statements coming. Cancer isn't going to cure itself, you know.
Sorry, boring.
Yeah, I feel you bro. I hope the day doesn't come when it's not boring even for you.
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RE: Harris' take on the recent events in Paris
November 17, 2015 at 11:09 am
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(November 17, 2015 at 10:25 am)Evie Wrote: He's also extremely brave, I wouldn't be surprised if at some point he had to go into hiding for being so outspokenly anti-Islam.
He did already, to some extent. He's taken security measures and he is keeping his and his family's locations secret.
Why do you think he practices jiu-jitsu and owns guns? 
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RE: Harris' take on the recent events in Paris
November 17, 2015 at 11:23 am
Ah so I didn't imagine that. I was gonna say I was pretty sure he had already gone into hiding but if I was wrong I would have looked like an idiot lol.
Well he does jiu-jitsu for other reasons too. I didn't know he owned guns but I'm not surprised.
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