Where do Christians get this idea that atheists defend Islam

[Edwardo Piet]

I've never seen even a single one doing so. The only distinction I and many others are making is between Islam and muslim. The same distinctiion I make between christianity and christians and judaism and jews.

Good. It's a very important distinction.

And it's about fucking time people realized that "muslim" is not a race, too.

[abaris]

I don't know how many times I can be bothered to explain what the point of my post originally was because you seem intent on continually making straw man arguments against points I'm not making and ignoring the point I am making.

You don't have to explain it. Got you the first time round. That's why I said, I set up my own global laws and want them to happen. It's as consequential as what you tried to prove. Second time round I said, it's like a fart in a Tornado.

I got it perfectly well, and if you feel as if what you said is making some point in response to the other poster, be my guest. It's still ludicrous and just out for cheap shots.

[Mister Agenda]

They don't seem to get into that much here in the States. Maybe our 'don't put them in ghettoes' policy has something to do with it, or our rabid conservatives have them keeping their heads down.

I live in an area that's considered by locals to be an Islamic ghetto, but areas like this aren't created by any policy that I know of, its just cheap housing and people usually like to be around people of a similar culture to their own.  Lots of other cultures have moved in recently like polish and Romanians.

I'm not sure about immigrants, but when we do refugee resettlements, private charities sponsor the family or individual, and they are settled near the charity that sponsored them, because the sponsorship usually involves a year-long commitment to assist and help integrate.

Maybe getting scattered around  a large country like that prevents ghettoization. For example, in the Somali Bantu refugee resettlement about 15 years ago, they were settled in at least a dozen different states, from Texas to Maine. They are forming communities now, but they had to master cell phones, social media, driving, and finding work and housing to make it happen. There are only two of the original ten families left in Columbia SC where I worked with them, plus a couple of young men who stuck here with their jobs instead of moving with their families. I hear there are strong Bantu communities in Buffalo and Sioux Falls.

[paulpablo]

I don't know how many times I can be bothered to explain what the point of my post originally was because you seem intent on continually making straw man arguments against points I'm not making and ignoring the point I am making.

You don't have to explain it. Got you the first time round. That's why I said, I set up my own global laws and want them to happen. It's as consequential as what you tried to prove. Second time round I said, it's like a fart in a Tornado.

I got it perfectly well, and if you feel as if what you said is making some point in response to the other poster, be my guest. It's still ludicrous and just out for cheap shots.

None of that addresses anything I've said or the other poster, you're just making seperate points vaguely to do with a similar topic.

I did make a point in response to the other poster, it's not a cheap shot, I'm still willing to talk about all the points I made but I'm not willing to talk to you about points I didn't make which you seem to think I was making, such as if Muslims are able to establish sharia in Europe or America, if it is a fart in a tornado or not, or if you want to start some global laws.

[abaris]

I did make a point in response to the other poster, it's not a cheap shot, I'm still willing to talk about all the points I made but I'm not willing to talk to you about points I didn't make which you seem to think I was making, such as if Muslims are able to establish sharia in Europe or America, if it is a fart in a tornado or not, or if you want to start some global laws.

Wow, big surprise there. Some radicals wanting to shove down their worldview down the throats of others. So, what else is new? Kind of get why I call it a fart in a tornado? It won't happen, so what's your point in response to the other poster?

Can't be that there are radicals, or is it? That would be what I call a cheap shot with much of an effort, since I may repeat - video plus caption, to make sure that everyone gets the obvious.

Oh, I get it, he said that there are no people wanting to do that. Well, that certainly changes everything, since there's that guy claiming to want to establish Sharia law. That, of course, changes everything, since it's that substantial and I already shiver in fear when reflecting on it.

[The Valkyrie]

Personally I defend many Muslims, but not Islam.

It's the same as I will defend many Christians, but not Christianity.

[paulpablo]

I did make a point in response to the other poster, it's not a cheap shot, I'm still willing to talk about all the points I made but I'm not willing to talk to you about points I didn't make which you seem to think I was making, such as if Muslims are able to establish sharia in Europe or America, if it is a fart in a tornado or not, or if you want to start some global laws.

Wow, big surprise there. Some radicals wanting to shove down their worldview down the throats of others. So, what else is new? Kind of get why I call it a fart in a tornado? It won't happen, so what's your point in response to the other poster?

Can't be that there are radicals, or is it? That would be what I call a cheap shot with much of an effort, since I may repeat - video plus caption, to make sure that everyone gets the obvious.

Oh, I get it, he said that there are no people wanting to do that. Well, that certainly changes everything, since there's that guy claiming to want to establish Sharia law. That, of course, changes everything, since it's that substantial and I already shiver in fear when reflecting on it.

For the 9th or 10th time.

My response to the original poster is that I disagree with his or her statement that Muslims do not try and force their law into our government and act entitled.

Nothing to do with how much fear Muslims cause how many other people do the same thing, how probable it is they will succeed, if you want to put laws in place globally or if their efforts are similar to a fart in a tornado.

[abaris]

For the 9th or 10th time.

My response to the original poster is that I disagree with his or her statement that Muslims do not try and force their law into our government and act entitled.

Yes, for the 9th or 10th time, I got it the first time round. The only thing mildly amusing me, is you thinking to make a point. Farting in a Tornado, that's what I call it - for the 9th or 10th time. With that much effort, looking up a fitting vid, watching it and extract a caption. That's what I would call pressing hard to get the turd out.

Noone disputes there are radicals. Maybe the poster you were responding to did, but that's on the same amusing lines as your repsonse.

[paulpablo]

For the 9th or 10th time.

My response to the original poster is that I disagree with his or her statement that Muslims do not try and force their law into our government and act entitled.

Yes, for the 9th or 10th time, I got it the first time round. The only thing mildly amusing me, is you thinking to make a point. Farting in a Tornado, that's what I call it - for the 9th or 10th time. With that much effort, looking up a fitting vid, watching it and extract a caption. That's what I would call pressing hard to get the turd out.

Noone disputes there are radicals. Maybe the poster you were responding to did, but that's on the same amusing lines as your repsonse.

If you think my point isn't valid what reasons do you have for thinking that?

No one mentioned the existence of radicals or none existence, again you seem to not be able to grasp the concept of a simple conversation about a simple topic.

One person has said Muslims do not try to force their laws into our government and act entitled I've said I disagree with this point.

So if you consider a radical to be a Muslim who wants to change laws of a western government to sharia and acts entitled to do so then the original post does dispute the existence of at least this type of radical since it states that Muslims do not do this and therefore is stating that this type of islamic radical does not exist.

The videos were there in order to give examples of Muslims who do act entitled to change laws in countries to abide with sharia.

I'm not going to ignore you but I am going to stop replying to you if your next posts involve arguing about points I haven't made, this is around the 10th post you have made now arguing against points I've never made in the first place. If you have anything that does actually consist of a response to arguments I have put forward I'll be sure to respond

[Minimalist]

I always hear this among Christians and it seems to be a rather common complaint Christians have. Do they know that the reason we separate radical Islam such as ISIS and normal Islam and two different things? Why does this bother them so much? I think it's just another persecution complex. After all, despite popular belief among Christians; Islamic's aren't trying to force their laws into our government and don't act like self entitled pricks.

It's also atheists getting the same impression. It's because they make no distinction between people and religion, radicals and people simply going about their business without hurting anyone.

I'm the last to defend any religion, and my feelings towards radicals are a mixture between pity for a wasted lifetime and disgust. But what I never did and never will do, is looking at the Kebap man on the corner with suspicion.

You gotta watch those kebab vendors, man.