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"The first person to live to [200, 300, 500, 1000] has already been born"
RE: "The first person to live to [200, 300, 500, 1000] has already been born"
(December 14, 2015 at 5:33 pm)Rhythm Wrote:
(December 14, 2015 at 5:26 pm)Amine Wrote: It's just a matter of time? What does that mean, like a million years? A billion? This is vague, and fatalistic. It's "a matter of time" particularly if we don't develop this technology. Why bother with anything at all? We all die in the end, right?

Far less than that.  It means that if people stopped dying, and continued to breed at current rates (or, lets softball it, 3rd or better generation first worlders rates) we would simply run out of stuff.  I know, there's "stuff" out in space....but getting it here is non-trivial, and were pretty far away from that.  Granted, the notion of global mobilization into space is more palatable than global sterilization.

Why would we run out of stuff? There are nascent technologies such as

-Nuclear, solar, wind (etc) energy
-In vitro meat (livestock farming is an immense drain)
-Desalination
-Distributed manufacturing, aka 3d printing, followed by...
-Nanotechnology with extraordinary capacity to recycle matter
-Advanced transportation or the complete lack of need for transportation due to telepresence

..to name a few, which are going to usher in an era of abundance, not lack. That's why poverty in the world is already decreasing drastically. The carrying capacity on this planet alone has a long way to go.
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RE: "The first person to live to [200, 300, 500, 1000] has already been born"
Ok, I'll cut to the chase. The "correct" answer is you conspire with me to withhold the medication from Steve until he dies on his own, then you cut him up, I prepare the wood, start the fire, you whistle a happy tune and we have dinner in the glowing dusk. His blood should make for a good wine, no?
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RE: "The first person to live to [200, 300, 500, 1000] has already been born"
-and with those nascent technologies, Amine, we might be able to address the problem of the billions -already- starving.  Add an infinite number more.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: "The first person to live to [200, 300, 500, 1000] has already been born"
(December 14, 2015 at 5:45 pm)excitedpenguin Wrote: Ok, I'll cut to the chase. The "correct" answer is you conspire with me to withhold the medication from Steve until he dies on his own, then you cut him up, I prepare the wood, start the fire, you whistle a happy tune and we have dinner in the glowing dusk. His blood should make for a good wine, no?

Except that I don;t do that..you do...hence my first answer.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: "The first person to live to [200, 300, 500, 1000] has already been born"
(December 14, 2015 at 5:47 pm)Rhythm Wrote:
(December 14, 2015 at 5:45 pm)excitedpenguin Wrote: Ok, I'll cut to the chase. The "correct" answer is you conspire with me to withhold the medication from Steve until he dies on his own, then you cut him up, I prepare the wood, start the fire, you whistle a happy tune and we have dinner in the glowing dusk. His blood should make for a good wine, no?

Except that I don;t do that..you do...hence my first answer.

You would rather we gave Steve the medicine, let him live, and have all three of us die, right?
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RE: "The first person to live to [200, 300, 500, 1000] has already been born"
We all die either way.......I'd rather die as I am, a person who does not conspire with the likes of you, kill a man, and eat him.  Is it difficult to believe that, or do you need to belioeve otherwise to feel better about the horrible shit you've espoused in this thread?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: "The first person to live to [200, 300, 500, 1000] has already been born"
(December 14, 2015 at 5:50 pm)Rhythm Wrote: We all die either way.......I'd rather die as I am, a person who does not conspire with the likes of you, kill a man, and eat him.  Is it difficult to believe that, or do you need to belioeve otherwise to feel better about the horrible shit you've espoused in this thread?

What do you mean we'll all die either way? In my scenario, you only die if you don't eat anything until the helicopter arives.

Or do you mean we die in our beds, 50 years later, of old age?
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RE: "The first person to live to [200, 300, 500, 1000] has already been born"
Now who's editing his posts.......lol.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: "The first person to live to [200, 300, 500, 1000] has already been born"
I have no remorse for anything I've written in this thread. And I'll say some other apparently outrageous shit, if you make me.
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RE: "The first person to live to [200, 300, 500, 1000] has already been born"
(December 14, 2015 at 5:53 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Now who's editing his posts.......lol.

What do you mean? I only edit my posts for gramatical errors and such. The thing about dying without any food until the helicopter arrives has been touched upon many times over.
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