Amherst Student Was Expelled for Rape. But He Was Raped, Evidence Shows.

[Joods]

Sorry to disappoint you but many courts are not in favor of women. Look at family courts. Many women are being unfairly separated from their children because of a narcissistic ex. It happens to fathers too, but the father's rights movement seems to be gaining considerable ground on that front.

I realize you are talking about rape here, but domestic violence is domestic violence and it happens just as much in family court as it does in cases of rape. You might want to think about that before jumping on some feminism bashing bandwagon.

I think the kid in that case deserves to have justice and I think the girl needs to go to jail. But again, not all courts are biased against men.

[Jenny A]

Sorry to disappoint you but many courts are not in favor of women. Look at family courts. Many women are being unfairly separated from their children because of a narcissistic ex. It happens to fathers too, but the father's rights movement seems to be gaining considerable ground on that front.

I realize you are talking about rape here, but domestic violence is domestic violence and it happens just as much in family court as it does in cases of rape. You might want to think about that before jumping on some feminism bashing bandwagon.

I think the kid in that case deserves to have justice and I think the girl needs to go to jail. But again, not all courts are biased against men.

Have to disagree with you there. Generally speaking courts favor women in child custody cases. Doesn’t mean men always lose, or women are never treated unjustly, but in the majorityof cases, women win justly or otherwise. You may have possibly have been treated unjustly, but it doesn’t appear to be a trend in child custody cases.

Also, this thread is about college policy and administration which is currently heavily female biased when it comes to rape. The actual court system is a whole nother world.

[ErGingerbreadMandude]

Women get child custody when the father and mother are equally capable of raising the child in good conditions.
Men only get custody if the child's mother is not up to the par to take care of the child.

As you will notice, women get 1st preference.

[Brakeman]

Here's the article:
https://reason.com/blog/2015/06/11/amher...or-rape-bu

What a fucking joke.

That source is very short on information.

From this:

http://college.usatoday.com/2015/06/01/f...onviction/

We find that he forced her into a new round of non-concentual sex using his greater strength. How is this a mis-carrage of justice?

she performed oral sex willingly at the beginning and it became nonconsensual “’on a break’ during the sex act,” per Doe’s complaint. Documents say that Jones had asked Doe to stop but that he had forcibly made her continue.

[ErGingerbreadMandude]

The accuser said during her hearing that she only texted one friend to help her handle the assault as she felt "very alone and confused." But her texts with her female friend give no indication of an assault. Rather, the accuser texted her friend "Ohmygod I jus did something so fuckig stupid" [sic throughout].

The complaint also alleges that “after the disciplinary process had run its course, the plaintiff discovered, and submitted to the college, irrefutable, documentary evidence–text messages previously concealed by the complainant–which disclosed that the very night the sexual encounter occurred, the complainant admitted that not only had she consented to the sex, but that she was its moving force.”

Jones’ original complaint alleges the oral sex had been nonconsensual the entire time. However, she later told an investigator that she performed oral sex willingly at the beginning and it became nonconsensual “’on a break’ during the sex act,” per Doe’s complaint.

[ErGingerbreadMandude]

She lied in the beginning that the act was nonconsensual.
Then after they got some evidence that the act was in fact consensual she changed her statement to:
Yes, the act was consensual but during the middle of the act she no longer gave consent. Yes she is a very honest person, we can totally believe her.
The guy already made a statement that he was mostly blacked out.

I call bullshit on the girl.

[Homeless Nutter]

So if suicide rates are higher than murder rates then it's ok to dismiss a murder case as suicide every now and then? Okay.

That's not even close to what I said. Nice strawman, though. Hope you'll have fun with it...

Haha, dude, rape is no longer just dragging a female into an alley and violently penetrating her.

"Dude" - rape was NEVER just that. At least not since stone age. WTF? I don't know what kind of backward country you live in, but for f***'s sake - catch up!

A female can engage in sexual pleasure with a guy with consent but then later regret having done that and then sue the guy for rape.

Really? So she can lie, then - many people do. That's what courts are for. If she can prove she was raped - well then good luck to her.

A sh*tty worker, who is black can sue his white employer, claiming racism and - guess what - sometimes they even win (although I could say - "almost always", right? I mean - who's gonna check?), even if they were worthless and dishonest. So - as a white man, who has no problems finding employment, unless I get face-tattoos - would it be alright for me to say that the whole anti-discrimination thing is bullsh*t and an effect of our "n*****-loving culture"? No? Why not? There are many people who openly claim that - great many more, who believe it privately.

The court almost always rules in favor of the female,

A f***ing citation needed, if you please... "Almost always"? Yeah, man - you really sound credible. I totally believe you now...

even if they don't the guy will have to live in a society which will look at him as a rapist even if he was let free, he will have to live his whole life where others look at him like he is a rapist. Not to mention the online social media shenanigans, a girl just have to cry "raaaaaape!" and all the feminists will swarm the guy in twitter and facebook and soon there will be a whole group of people that would want to see the guy rot in jail - even if he wasn't at fault. Think I'm bluffing?

No. I think you're talking nonsense, you overheard on social media and believed it, because you don't know any better.

Check out twitter. Do you think it's fair to ruin a guys life like that?

Uhm, thanks, but I have no interest in Twatter, or anyone on it - and the day I form my opinions on social issues on the basis of these so called "social media" will be the day I blow my brains out - as my brain will be worthless at that point.

1. I have come across MANY stories like this where the guy is handed a slap on the face by the court system. That aside, I have come across even more news where the court system FUCKS the citizen 7 ways to Switzerland. Bullshit court system, like for example in cases involving cops. ["Fucking Cops" - Minimalist]

Where are those "MANY stories"? And have you never come across "MANY stories" about women being actually raped? I have - I'll happily provide links, as soon as you provide yours.

So you think it's okay for a guy to suffer occasionally because of bullshit fake rape stories since there are real rape cases? What kind of logic is that?

I don't know. It's you "logic", not mine - you tell me.

Again - no one is saying that it's OK to falsely accuse ANYONE of ANYTHING. If you have actual evidence that courts sentence countless innocent men to prison for rape - make with it. So far we have one - controversial - story in the OP and f*ck-ups like that will always happen, because judges are not infallible.

Would you be A-Okay if you were falsely accused of rape because there are hundred other real rape cases?

Nobody I've ever known has ever been accused of rape. Maybe my people are just not very "rapey". Yeah - I'll take my chances, thank you very much.

Another bullshit agenda of feminists worldwide. Make the man involved responsible. You think a guy can fuck with oxygen atoms?

Yes - it's called "masturbation" and is a pretty common occurence. Beats being accused of rape by some crazy alcoholic slag you picked up that one time, when your balls were blue.

A guy fucks with a girl and then after years if the girl feels guilty then the guy has to pay.

Really? How does she prove she was raped AFTER 3 years? Does she get swabbed then? If she can prove that she was raped after 3 or more years - chances are she was raped. Rape. Happens. As I said a few times before - judges make mistakes. That's what appeals are for.

Why do you think it doesn't happen the other way around? If you think it's normal for the guy to be handed such bullshit injustice - What.The.Fuck.

You KNOW, that guys can get raped as well, right? If you get drunk one night, black out and some gay dude f***s you - will you just accept it and move on, because "you never said no" - especially if he claims, that you were TOTALLY into it at the time? Sure you would...

[ErGingerbreadMandude]

That was really eye opening. I have a whole new perspective of the world I live in now. Thank you so much!

[Mermaid]

Then again, there isn't any need to be this surprised. Court systems favor females. It's a great injustice than females are given such power in the court that they can literally ruin a hardworking guy's life, just because she wanted to. Like you can fuck a girl now and after 3 years if she feels guilty and her "feelings" are hurt then she can go to court and sue you. Thanks to the ever changing definition of rape by the feminist culture. Christ.

After reading some of these bullshit stories I've come to realize how much of an AWESOME place I live in, never going to go live in one of those places in America, actually maybe it's better to avoid America altogether. Phew!

What the fuck did I just read?

[Brakeman]

.. complainant admitted that not only had she consented to the sex, but that she was its moving force.”

Jones’ original complaint alleges the oral sex had been nonconsensual the entire time. However, she later told an investigator that she performed oral sex willingly at the beginning and it became nonconsensual “’on a break’ during the sex act,” per Doe’s complaint.

A simple glance at the news articles easily shows that there is too little information given to be sufficient summary of the evidence that would be convincing enough to pass through at least two hearings.

The articles are purely from the man's complaint in federal court trying to find a sympathetic ear. He had exhaused the university's disciplinary process where he was found to be guilty to a preponderance of evidence. That evidence against him was obviously not included in his legal complaint and not included in the extremely one sided reporting. He's telling his side while the woman is stuck answering in court again.

You seem to think that university juries are so ignorant to human nature and so anti man biased that they convicted him just on a girls's whim years ago.

I'm sure the university disciplinary jury saw evidence of force, and force has no place in sex. Some drunks are mean and it does not take much imagination to come up with likely scenarios that weren't included in the complaint such as black eyes and other bruises that other witnesses might have seen. Also curious is the lack of defenders on his claim. Where does his then girlfriend stand?

Nah .. I smell an asshole here just trying to get away with a vicious drunk attack. Fuck him.