Pope Francis backs peace efforts in Christmas Day message

[Wyrd of Gawd]

If people really wanted to end wars they would kill the politicians that advocate for wars and the arms merchants that make munitions.  Who is making all of those RPGs and ammo that flood the various war zones?  Eliminate the sources.

Randos, that's who.   "Eliminate" them and someone else will produce the goods to fill the need which generates wealth.  This procession will continue indefinitely, and your resources will be exhausted long before you manage to eliminate the goods....but long after you've eliminated a great many people.  In effect, the victory condition for this suggestion is to replace the current tyrant with tyranny of your own.  Why not just stay in bed?

That's the old "do nothing because nothing will change" song.  What will change is that the assholes who are creating the current trouble will cease to exist.  And when another group pops up be quicker on the draw and don't let them gain control.  If people follow your line of reasoning chattel slavery would still exist in America.

[dyresand]

Randos, that's who.   "Eliminate" them and someone else will produce the goods to fill the need which generates wealth.  This procession will continue indefinitely, and your resources will be exhausted long before you manage to eliminate the goods....but long after you've eliminated a great many people.  In effect, the victory condition for this suggestion is to replace the current tyrant with tyranny of your own.  Why not just stay in bed?

That's the old "do nothing because nothing will change" song.  What will change is that the assholes who are creating the current trouble will cease to exist.  And when another group pops up be quicker on the draw and don't let them gain control.  If people follow your line of reasoning chattel slavery would still exist in America.

If chattel slavery still existed it would be bad for us economically considering no other first world nation would  want to buy or trade 
stuff considering you know slave labor items is frowned upon like blood diamonds.

[Wyrd of Gawd]

That's the old "do nothing because nothing will change" song.  What will change is that the assholes who are creating the current trouble will cease to exist.  And when another group pops up be quicker on the draw and don't let them gain control.  If people follow your line of reasoning chattel slavery would still exist in America.

If chattel slavery still existed it would be bad for us economically considering no other first world nation would  want to buy or trade 
stuff considering you know slave labor items is frowned upon like blood diamonds.

Our propaganda is so good the dummies around the world would think that it came straight from their favorite deity.  The American government forced Mexico to ban black Americans from visiting Mexico until July 1935.  The whites hated the idea of mixing with black Americans as equals even in a foreign country.
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[IanHulett]

Well, you aren't going to get very far praying to a magical skydaddy... but then again... that's obvious... I laugh when people pray for world peace rather than try to achieve world peace the realistic way. It's always "Hurr durr... dear god... please make this world peaceful because the world is full of bigots... you probably won't hear my message but... whatever... your will be done... herp derp... I'm a gawd boleeevur..."

[robvalue]

I realized something that never occured to me before. If praying actually had an effect, I would do it. I wouldn't join a religion or do anything else though.

[Brian37]

I realized something that never occured to me before. If praying actually had an effect, I would do it. I wouldn't join a religion or do anything else though.

Well it can have a placebo calming affect but that's all it does at best.

[robvalue]

Oh yeah, sure. I do other stuff which helps achieve what the placebo effect would do. But if I prayed for a loaf of bread, and a loaf of bread appeared in front of me, then that would be cool. I'd keep doing it. I'd be curious as to why it was working of course.

[Brian37]

Well, you aren't going to get very far praying to a magical skydaddy... but then again... that's obvious... I laugh when people pray for world peace rather than try to achieve world peace the realistic way. It's always "Hurr durr... dear god... please make this world peaceful because the world is full of bigots... you probably won't hear my message but... whatever... your will be done... herp derp... I'm a gawd boleeevur..."

I said it before. 4 billion year old planet, only the past 10,000 years have humans learned to speak and write, and only the past 150 years has science really taken off. But what is really important to believers is that daddy loves us groveling for his attention to the point of bigotry, war and oppression, but who cares right? As long as after you beat the crap out of each other and talk to yourself and ask for peace, that makes all the crappy things you do to other humans fine.

7 billion humans and the big three monotheistic religions hold the entire planet hostage over old books.

[Wyrd of Gawd]

Oh yeah, sure. I do other stuff which helps achieve what the placebo effect would do. But if I prayed for a loaf of bread, and a loaf of bread appeared in front of me, then that would be cool. I'd keep doing it. I'd be curious as to why it was working of course.

According to the fairy tale the Israelites got manna from heaven six days a week for 40 years.  They got tired of it after the third day.

[Joods]

I bet they wished they had butter or jelly for it