Brain Dead Girls Court Case

[Mr.wizard]

Also not a legal expert but I don't know if the parents have the right to use cryonics on their child.

[Joods]

But he actually has a valid point. As long as there are idiots in office, who do the things repubes do, this country will sit and spin its wheels. And it's frustrating. And I agree with Min.

Oh, I'm sorry. I thought he was talking about the voters. I made a mistake here.

If you're simply talking about some candidates, I don't think that's necessarily wrong. People can have their ideas criticized and not take it on a personal level if some politician is being attacked.

He did say they were seeking out nomination. But we're now straying from the topic.

[Excited Penguin]

Ok, that I agree with.

However I'm not sure if cryonics works on brain dead patients, I am no medical expert.

Isn't cryonics about preserving dead people? Don't dead people have dead brains?

I don't know what to say.

http://alcor.org/AboutCryonics/index.html

Today brain tissue preserved with a modern vitrification solution shows virtually no freezing damage. Whole neurons are visible with intact membranes and well defined structure. This is the excellent brain preservation which Alcor can now achieve in human patients. Most "experts" who complain about damage caused by cryonics procedures are unaware that such preservation is now possible.

[Excited Penguin]

Oh, I'm sorry. I thought he was talking about the voters. I made a mistake here.

If you're simply talking about some candidates, I don't think that's necessarily wrong. People can have their ideas criticized and not take it on a personal level if some politician is being attacked.

He did say they were seeking out nomination. But we're now straying from the topic.

I said I'm sorry, and I went back and saw that he said that indeed. No need to act so bitchy.

[Excited Penguin]

Also not a legal expert but I don't know if the parents have the right to use cryonics on their child.

I can't see any reason why they wouldn't be allowed to.

[Mr.wizard]

However I'm not sure if cryonics works on brain dead patients, I am no medical expert.

Isn't cryonics about preserving dead people? Don't dead people have dead brains?

I don't know what to say.

http://alcor.org/AboutCryonics/index.html

Today brain tissue preserved with a modern vitrification solution shows virtually no freezing damage. Whole neurons are visible with intact membranes and well defined structure. This is the excellent brain preservation which Alcor can now achieve in human patients. Most "experts" who complain about damage caused by cryonics procedures are unaware that such preservation is now possible.

Same website:

The basic structural and chemical integrity of a brain in the first minutes and even hours after cardiac death is surprisingly good. It’s the restoration of warm blood circulation to an injured brain that is ultimately deadly, and that results in destruction that even future technology could not easily reverse (brain death). This is why the prognosis of patients declared “brain dead” while on life support is poor even for cryonics. Most candidates for cryonics suffer cardiac death, which is more amenable to future medical repair than brain death as currently defined.

So I guess they are saying it probably won't work for someone who is brain dead, but we will be happy to take your money anyway.

[Excited Penguin]

I don't see any indication in there that they're pushing that sort of agenda. They are clearly saying it's unlikely that they can do anything for brain dead patients.

[Mr.wizard]

I don't see any indication in there that they're pushing that sort of agenda. They are clearly saying it's unlikely that they can do anything for brain dead patients.

Well, they are selling the hope of immortality

[Excited Penguin]

I don't see any indication in there that they're pushing that sort of agenda. They are clearly saying it's unlikely that they can do anything for brain dead patients.

Well, they are selling the hope of immortality

I don't see why there's something wrong with that, since it's not exactly like it's definitely a sham. I don't see them using unscientific reasons to persuade people to buy their product.

[Mr.wizard]

Well, they are selling the hope of immortality

I don't see why there's something wrong with that, since it's not exactly like it's definitely a sham. I don't see them using unscientific reasons to persuade people to buy their product.

Didn't say there was anything wrong with it, but I'm not trusting that it works either. It is one of those things that never really has to yield any results, they just sell you hope and it never fails because they can just keep pointing to the future.