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What sucks due to my religion (for me).
#51
RE: What sucks due to my religion (for me).
Sure, if you like. If you're just going to defend Islam regardless, there probably isn't much point. If you're actually interested in evaluating the worthiness of Islam and religion, then I'll happily do so.

However, if you want to understand my position better, I'm happy to discuss that also.

PS: I'm impressed you watched it. I doubt every theist would even be prepared to listen to it.
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#52
RE: What sucks due to my religion (for me).
(December 28, 2015 at 1:31 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:
(December 28, 2015 at 1:26 pm)Rhythm Wrote: You think so?  This deep and abiding affection you feel for the girl is shown in the fact that you would insist that she become someone else, before she were acceptable, to you?  That's some cheap, petty shit Mystic.

I would leave Islam to be with her, if I could convince myself Islam is not true. I really would. But there is no turning back on Islam when I know it to be true.

What's true about it?  

Would a real muslim be whining about BS like this?
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#53
RE: What sucks due to my religion (for me).
(December 28, 2015 at 1:31 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Not as much as you think you do, and not as much as you like your friend Steve.  I hope you -do- find a girl, someday, that you really do like.  One that can convince you to do something even if you know you'll regret it.  Especially, when you know you'll regret it.
He should check out his cousins.
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#54
RE: What sucks due to my religion (for me).
(December 28, 2015 at 1:48 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: There is alternate case:

I convince her Bible condemns fornication and forbids paradise to fornicators. She regret it, repents.
We marry as Muslim - Christian couple.

She already is Christian.

Muslims are not supposed to marry Christians.  Allah will throw you into hell.  It's in the Koran.
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#55
RE: What sucks due to my religion (for me).
Sounds like indecision to me. You need to make up your mind about what's important to you and stick with it. You can't have it both ways.
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#56
RE: What sucks due to my religion (for me).
(December 28, 2015 at 12:53 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: So I was invited by a girl I really like to go somewhere new years.  Only thing I know there is alcohol, music, dancing, etc, so not allowed going.

SO IT SUCKS THAT I CAN'T GO.

Secondly although earlier I did temporary marriage/relationship (mutal nikah) with this person, however I realized she is a fornicator through out her life, which Quran forbids any form of marriage to up until they repent and change their ways.

SO IT SUCKS THAT I CAN'T YOU KNOW NOW.

If I could convince myself Islam is not true, I would. I would really. LOOK AT WHAT I'M MISSING OUT ON. But I know it to be true and can't go against my knowledge, and cover it up.


SHE HAS BLUE EYES. BLUE EYES. PRETTY. 

But at least I'm going to see her tomorrow.

New years eve parties are over priced, over crowded and everyone is trying to force as much alcohol as possible down themselves to have a forced good time.

I don't usually side with Islam but in this case I think the bullshit of Islam might have saved you money, prevented you from going to a shit party, and may have even saved you from getting an STD.  Also if you're going to go there and drink alcohol while chasing a girl, after living a lifestyle of not drinking for a long long period of time, it's likely you might feel like an idiot the next day, and you can look at napolon's thread on what happened at his work's christmas party as to how that can happen.

It shows how powerful pussy is that THIS is the one substantial situation you talk about that's making you try and re evaluate Islam.


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#57
What sucks due to my religion (for me).
(December 28, 2015 at 1:26 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: To really pray for forgiveness in Islam, you really have to regret it and sincerely be sorry for it and have resolve not to do it again. So if I don't regret it, I will regret it the next world.

If I do regret it, then I will regret it. Either way I will regret it.

Doesn't seem really smart to do something I know I will regret.

If you aren't smart enough to throw religion out the window, you really should convert to Christianity. You don't have to regret anything just ask jebus to forgive you.
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RE: What sucks due to my religion (for me).
(December 28, 2015 at 12:53 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: So I was invited by a girl I really like to go somewhere new years.  Only thing I know there is alcohol, music, dancing, etc, so not allowed going.

SO IT SUCKS THAT I CAN'T GO.

Secondly although earlier I did temporary marriage/relationship (mutal nikah) with this person, however I realized she is a fornicator through out her life, which Quran forbids any form of marriage to up until they repent and change their ways.

SO IT SUCKS THAT I CAN'T YOU KNOW NOW.

If I could convince myself Islam is not true, I would. I would really. LOOK AT WHAT I'M MISSING OUT ON. But I know it to be true and can't go against my knowledge, and cover it up.


SHE HAS BLUE EYES. BLUE EYES. PRETTY. 

But at least I'm going to see her tomorrow.

It's simple fuck religion go have fun. Don't let religion stand in the way of having a good time.
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#59
What sucks due to my religion (for me).
@robvalue

Man that's some funny shit!
"Blow my head up god."

I have said things like that in front of believers and they start backing up and cringe. It's so funny.
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#60
RE: What sucks due to my religion (for me).
Haha, thanks Big Grin

Yeah, I have helped at least one person I'm aware of with direct approaches like this to shatter the veil of fear. Sometimes it takes a slegehammer rather than a scalpel.

I've no idea if it will help Mystic, but it's my best attempt given that he's already seen all the standard stuff before.
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