To call them autistic or people with autism

[MTL]

Your point is? You want to start a dick waiving competition about who is more oppressed? Tell me about the last time you were denied an education because you were a woman? Tell me about the time that nearly entire schools made fun of because you were a woman? Tell me the last you got fired for being a woman.
What your listing as insults are insults because they are abdications of your identity, hence if I say you look like a man its insulting. Just like you say I look like a woman its insulting. Hardly makes bbeing a woman a insult. Being called a bitch is a insult, so is being called a dick, or a prick. I use those words sometimes not because I want to insult women, but because their colloquial definitions match what I'm describing. When I call you a cunt, its not because I'm envisioning a vagina, its describing a whiny person with no back bone. It really has nothing to do with gender beyond the fact that historically people used people genetalia to refer to the worst aspects of both gender stereo types. Both gender types. Unfortunately equality is a bitch when everyone is being shit on.
As for your last part? That's hardly sexism, that shity characterizing of people you actually do meet. You say the same thing across all genders and races. You have the douchy pick up artist, the dumb jock, the pick up artist, the thug, and that is just off the top of my head. Want more women in writing? Cut the I'm a victim bullshit and get girls to pursue their own goals. Be it writing or having a family or being a fucking astronaut. Women can be whatever they want just as much as a man can, and the last thing they need is a bunch of people infantilizing them and saying they are perpetual victims.
Also, I can think of a number of tv shows that do not follow those dumb characterizations at all. I.E star trek Voyager, star trek deep space nine, battle star Galactica, firefly, forever. And that is just what I can name off the top of my head. You have to remember TV shows use characterizing extensively and get they often appeal to the lowest common denominator.

home run

edit;
I don't mean to offend, but some women seriously need to get rid of this victim complex of theirs.

I acknowledged that my post was poorly-phrased,
I am actually annoyed with myself because it conveyed the exact opposite
of what I was endeavoring to say.

I don't mind if people disagree with me,
but I don't like being misunderstood,
and I hate when it is my own fault,
which it is, in this case.

I actually agree with LemonVariable insofar it should NEVER become a contest
as to which group suffers more;

there is no excuse for ignorance, stereotyping, or stigmatizing, ANYWHERE.

However, both you and LemonVariable are guilty of labeling feminism as "victims".

It is one thing if he wants to criticize me for sounding like I am starting a competition to see who is the most oppressed; that is valid.

But for him, or you, to turn around and say that feminists need to stop whining and playing the victim card
is unacceptable;

This is self-contradictory for LemonVariable to draw attention to how Autistic people are stigmatized,
yet call feminists victims.

Women are still paid less than men,
still oppressed in many parts of the world,
still having their genitals mutilated,
and right here, in North America, we also face a growing problem of human trafficking of young women;

...yet he wants to dismiss any feminists as "victims",
while holding up Autistic people as unfairly persecuted

...and in the same breath claim that it is unsavoury for different groups to compete
for the title of 'Most-Persecuted'.

Now, that addresses LemonVariable's self-contradiction;

But since you've jumped in with your two cents, Pool,
let me pose you a different question:

Do you consider the "Black Lives Matter"  movement as "whining"?

or does it absolutely have legitimacy, given how black people are still treated today?

Or what about LGBT Pride?

Lots of people accuse them of whining, too.

[Lemonvariable72]

[GrandizerII]

You might feel differently if those things were considered disorders and highly stigmatized.

Just sayin'.

People with autism are stigmatized to the point where we have a prime time hit TV show dedicated to making fun of us.

Isn't this a "woe is me" attitude right there? You see this in feminism but not in this quote?

[GrandizerII]

home run

edit;
I don't mean to offend, but some women seriously need to get rid of this victim complex of theirs.

I acknowledged that my post was poorly-phrased,
I am actually annoyed with myself because it conveyed the exact opposite
of what I was endeavoring to say.

I don't mind if people disagree with me,
but I don't like being misunderstood,
and I hate when it is my own fault,
which it is, in this case.

I actually agree with LemonVariable insofar it should NEVER become a contest
as to which group suffers more;

there is no excuse for ignorance, stereotyping, or stigmatizing, ANYWHERE.

However, both you and LemonVariable are guilty of labeling feminism as "victims".

It is one thing if he wants to criticize me for sounding like I am starting a competition to see who is the most oppressed; that is valid.

But for him, or you, to turn around and say that feminists need to stop whining and playing the victim card
is unacceptable;

This is self-contradictory for LemonVariable to draw attention to how Autistic people are stigmatized,
yet call feminists victims.

Women are still paid less than men,
still oppressed in many parts of the world,
still having their genitals mutilated,
and right here, in North America, we also face a growing problem of human trafficking of young women;

...yet he wants to dismiss any feminists as "victims",
while holding up Autistic people as unfairly persecuted

Yep, although never diagnosed, I suspect I have Asperger's myself, and life can get quite unfair for me given that this social world was "made" best for "neurotypicals", but I can simultaneously accept that women still have it pretty bad compared to men. Like you say, we should all be in this together rather than opposing each other.

[Lemonvariable72]

People with autism are stigmatized to the point where we have a prime time hit TV show dedicated to making fun of us.

Isn't this a "woe is me" attitude right there? You see this in feminism but not in this quote?

Yes, I do. However it is true. When was the last time you watched a show dedicated to making fun of women?

[GrandizerII]

Isn't this a "woe is me" attitude right there? You see this in feminism but not in this quote?

Yes, I do. However it is true. When was the last time you watched a show dedicated to making fun of women?

I don't watch too many shows tbh. But what show were you referring to exactly? And what constitutes a show making fun of people with autism? I will see if the same criteria you use can be applied to other shows regarding women.

[Lemonvariable72]

Yes, I do. However it is true. When was the last time you watched a show dedicated to making fun of women?

I don't watch too many shows tbh. But what show were you referring to exactly? And what constitutes a show making fun of people with autism? I will see if the same criteria you use can be applied to other shows regarding women.

Really? I thought you said you didn't what this who is more oppressed bullcrap. Any the show I'm talking about is the big bang theory. 5 of the main characters show definite signs of aspergers and the whole show is dedicated to laughing at them. Anyway this was one quite insignificant part of what I said, and would prefer notnto dwell on this.

[GrandizerII]

I don't watch too many shows tbh. But what show were you referring to exactly? And what constitutes a show making fun of people with autism? I will see if the same criteria you use can be applied to other shows regarding women.

Really? I thought you said you didn't what this who is more oppressed bullcrap.  Any the show I'm talking about is the big bang theory. 5 of the main characters show definite signs of aspergers and the whole show is dedicated to laughing at them. Anyway this was one quite insignificant part of what I said, and would prefer notnto dwell on this.

Ok, let's not dwell on that bit. So it's understandably rough having autism. What is your social life like as someone with autism? How mistreated do you feel by others because of your autism?

[Lemonvariable72]

Really? I thought you said you didn't what this who is more oppressed bullcrap.  Any the show I'm talking about is the big bang theory. 5 of the main characters show definite signs of aspergers and the whole show is dedicated to laughing at them. Anyway this was one quite insignificant part of what I said, and would prefer notnto dwell on this.

Ok, let's not dwell on that bit. So it's understandably rough having autism. What is your social life like as someone with autism? How mistreated do you feel by others because of your autism?

I don't feel mistreated now. But there was times where it was really bad in the past. For example at cadet camp when I was 16 I had big woman grab my dick on the bus because she thought it be a funny joke. I had one job last year where my manager found out and did everything in here power to get me fired after my friend complained about another employee telling customers I was mentally handicapped. So I'm sorry if I popped off a little on this thread, just the first comment from mtl really irked me.

[GrandizerII]

Ok, let's not dwell on that bit. So it's understandably rough having autism. What is your social life like as someone with autism? How mistreated do you feel by others because of your autism?

I don't feel mistreated now. But there was times where it was really bad in the past. For example at cadet camp when I was 16 I had big woman grab my dick on the bus because she thought it be a funny joke. I had one job last year where my manager found out and did everything in here power to get me fired after my friend complained about another employee telling customers I was mentally handicapped. So I'm sorry if I popped off a little on this thread, just the first comment from mtl really irked me.

Wow, that's a shitty thing what both the woman on the bus and the manager did to you. Fuck, I don't think I personally had it that bad, but sometimes I just feel quite lonely while trying to socialize with people. People around me seem to know how to say things certain ways and express themselves properly. For me, it's like I need some guidance on how to manage myself that flexibly in the social world.