Something to shake the very foundation of your lack of faith

[yukapuka]

I got that information from wikipedia i am not saying that i know each name of by heart

but all of that can be summarised by four names

Jabbar ibn Hayyan

"Ibn al-Ḥaytham made significant contributions to the principles of optics, astronomy, mathematics, meteorology, visual perception and the scientific method.[12] He spent most of his life close to the court of the Fatimid Caliphate in Cairo and earned his living authoring various treatises and tutoring members of the nobilities.[13]

Ibn al-Ḥaytham widely considered the first theoretical physicist, and the earliest to discover that a hypothesis must be proved by experiments based on confirm able procedures or mathematical evidence—hence understanding the scientific method 200 years before Renaissance scientists."

Jaffar As Sadiq Many fields developed and pioneered , opened a huge university and was its head
Muhmmad Baqir Many fields developed and pioneered opened a huge university and was its head and teacher
Muhammad ibn Musa al-Khwarizmi the father of Algebra and Algorithms
Jabir Ibn Hayyan - Father of chemistry amongst other things

[yukapuka]

So, quotes from a book of myths and a copy/paste list of names.

Wow that's some original thinking you have there.

I already stated that Islam has added to human knowledge.  Some individual Muslims have alsi made major contributions.

Islam, as a whole, however, has yet to drag itself from its self imposed dark age.

Islam inspired the renaissance in Europe

[yukapuka]

Great wall of stupid text that means nothing.  I do not thank you for your appearance.

its stupid to you because your an uneducated stupid person, and if you cant make sense of this then your extremely blind

your brain isnt functioning , so yeah to you it seems stupid

maybe i should use cave painting for you since your still living in a cave and communicate with pictures , words elude you

[The Valkyrie]

It had a hand but the burgeoning of science in Europe was greatly inspired but individuals across Europe.

Again, I do not deny Islam's influence on science. It's just a shame it sank into the darjness that Europe was just emerging from. And some if the blame for that rests squarely on the Church of Europe.

[yukapuka]

Hide tags are your friend......where did you crib all of that from anyway?  I'd love a link......
(the reference brackets are a dead giveaway for copy paste spam)

Do you think i am supposed to know all of that by heart? of course i copied and pasted it from wikipedia

that doesnt take anything away from its truth

the point wasnt that "look i know names" the point was that Islam INSPIRED science and took science to anew level which before Islam science was not formal and bit where here and there

Islam formalized science and created the scientific method, made it a subject created interest and most importantly was turned into practical tools that were used ot better life

for example Pythagoras used mathematics for a religion, it was a belief system, not a method to create and develop things

but the Muslim Arabs used science to better life, to create tools and understand the universe

seeking knowledge, Islam had a God and religion and that dealt with morals and the afterlife, but science was the living world and how to develop it and make life easier better etc

Islam formalized science into knowledge that was practical for making life easier

[The Grand Nudger]

It's true, islam did lift a ton of science from it's subjugate states and the works contained therein.  Most notably in the quran, where the authors were so enamored with galen and hippocrates that they stole from them term-for-term and, subsequently, got it as wrong as the greeks.  

[yukapuka]

It had a hand but the burgeoning of science in Europe was greatly inspired but individuals across Europe.

Again, I do not deny Islam's influence on science.  It's just a shame it sank into the darjness that Europe was just emerging from.  And some if the blame for that rests squarely on the Church of Europe.

In europe science was not used the way that science was used in Arabia

everyone knows about the religion of Pythagoras

the whole purpose for Pythagoras for his mathematical studies was a religion , he created a religion out of mathematics which gave meaning to life

but Arabs used knowledge to better life, used science to develop the practical life, to make life easier to grasp the knowledge of the world and manipulate it to make life easier

for example the Jabbin ibn Al Hayyan developed(amongst other things) soap using his first knowledge of chemistry , he developed glass for storing food and drink etc and he also developed other things

but the Pythagorean's used mathematics to come up with rules like "you cant eat beans on a certain day" and go to temples to worship their beliefs , which was a geometrical system of maths that they believed in i.e his maths was a religion

BIG difference

[account_inactive]

Great wall of stupid text that means nothing.  I do not thank you for your appearance.

its stupid to you because your an uneducated stupid person, and if you cant make sense of this then your extremely blind

your brain isnt functioning , so yeah to you it seems stupid

maybe i should use cave painting for you since your still living in a cave and communicate with pictures , words elude you

Heh, you can't call anyone stupid.

[yukapuka]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pythagoreanism

as you can see Aristotle and Plato belonged to this belief system

so it wasnt science in the traditional sense it was metaphysical belief system

they didnt use it the way the Arabs used it , they probably could have but they were too busy still searching for meaning in life

the Arabs already HAD meaning in life they had Islam , so they were not searching for purpose and meaning any-more, they were looking at science for its practical benefits and purpose and uses and seeking in knowledge of the world around them in general

in arabia alegrba and math was used for the economy and markets and traders and knowledge in general hence why it was needed and pursued while again the Greeks where looking for metaphysical meaning and purpose and philosophy in their sciences , and not for practical uses BIG DIFFERENCE

[ignoramus]

So what went wrong, man?