Our Lady of Fatima?

[The Valkyrie]

Mass delusion.

[Clueless Morgan]

Why would those shepherd children lie about seeing Mary

Why would the boy lie about seeing a wolf?

[A-g-n-o-s-t-i-c]

TV of Iran several time show a program and said Lady Fatima Who had seen in Portuguese was not Marry (mother of Jesus).
TV said Fatima lady was daughter of Muhammad and came to Europe for inviting christian to Islam.

[The Valkyrie]

TV of Iran several time show a program and said Lady Fatima Who had seen in Portuguese was not Marry (mother of Jesus).
TV said Fatima lady was daughter of Muhammad and came to Europe for inviting christian to Islam.

And I could claim it was the son of Odin, Thor, in drag visiting Europe to re establish worship of the AllFather.

Claims don't make it true.

[The Inquisition]

What do you all think of this.. phenomenon?  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Our_Lady_of_F%C3%A1tima

I have flirted with atheism but it is phenomena like this that make me come back into the arms of the Church.

It seems so... so valid. Why would those shepherd children lie about seeing Mary, and how does one explain the miraculous "Miracle of the Sun?"

It seems Russia has indeed been converted, with record amounts of people loving Jesus and his immaculate mother Mary! Atheism on the decrease, and people are flocking to churches.

True, they are Eastern Orthodox instead of Catholic, but it is a fine religion all the same. They are just one Pope short of being completly true!  

I mean.. I have never heard someone reasonably refute Fatima.. how does one.. does one explain it?

Mass Hallucination, Hysteria & Miracles

Also, in 1981, in Yugoslavia, in a village called Medjugorje, a small group of children reported meeting and speaking with the mythical “Virgin” Mary, whereupon some estimated 11 million pilgrims travelled to the childrens’ village. These pilgrims stared into the sky, toward the sun, looking for Mary’s divine form at an appointed time and place. Interestingly, despite their priming, none of them seemed to manage an actual vision of Mary herself. However, they did report anomalous visions, “such as […] crosses in the sky, double suns”, and some reported “being able to stare at the setting sun without eye damage.”[6]

Some more fun reading:

Mass Delusions and Hysterias: Highlights from the Past Millennium

[Dystopia]

Why don't you read the whole article.  The whole thing sounds like political propaganda.

Old Salazar grasped the concept. Fado, Football and Fatima, was enough to keep the populace under control. Even today people pilgrimate there. The sad part is that in blind faith to keep a promise the news are full of pillgrims hit by car news. I am Portuguese, I know all about it. Its good for turism.

It was a scam. It's curious almost no one was able to reach and have contact with the alleged witnesses after it supposedly happen. It's fake

[Dystopia]

Mass delusion.

I love your new name.

#SorryForTheDerail

[brewer]

I'm going with mushroom consumption. The same type Rob's rabbits got into.

[Drich]

What do you all think of this.. phenomenon?  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Our_Lady_of_F%C3%A1tima

I have flirted with atheism but it is phenomena like this that make me come back into the arms of the Church.

It seems so... so valid. Why would those shepherd children lie about seeing Mary, and how does one explain the miraculous "Miracle of the Sun?"

It seems Russia has indeed been converted, with record amounts of people loving Jesus and his immaculate mother Mary! Atheism on the decrease, and people are flocking to churches.

True, they are Eastern Orthodox instead of Catholic, but it is a fine religion all the same. They are just one Pope short of being completly true!  

I mean.. I have never heard someone reasonably refute Fatima.. how does one.. does one explain it?

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Look brother if your faith hangs on signs and wonders it is a faith built on sand. He who build his house/faith on sand will see it fall when tested. Or so says Christ.

Also ask yourself are their any NT examples of Angels/mary/whomever show boating like this (the answer is no) Now move over to Islam and ask yourself the same question, and you will find the answer to be yes. A strong yes. In fact if not for these types of signs and wonders Islam would not be a religion.

The point? 'signs and wonders' are a powerful testament to whom ever wields them, but at the same time the true test comes in what the performer of said signs and wonders is measured up against, what the bible has to say. Is their message consistent with the message of the bible or do they teach a 'new doctrine' Christ Himself warns us about? Does the messenger bring us closer to the God of the bible or does he seek to change or redirect our focus to someone/thing else as with the case of Islam?

(In this instance, the sign/wonder and the message of marry is lifted up first, then the experience is beheld, finally credit trickles back to God.) Which again follows the pattern of how Islam looks to the prophet, then his angelic experience then it all trickles back to God. Here Marry is the prophet, then the angelic experience then God.

[Homeless Nutter]

[...]It seems so... so valid.

No. It seems retarded. This is the kind of thing, that stops everyone from taking christians seriously.

Why would those shepherd children lie about seeing Mary,

Why do children make up fantastic sh*t? Maybe because they're bored. Maybe - to get attention. Maybe - to stop their priest from f*cking their perky little bottoms? Who can tell...

and how does one explain the miraculous "Miracle of the Sun?"[...]

A bunch of retards staring at the Sun, each pretending they saw "something" and making up vague descriptions, because they didn't want to be the only c*nt, who didn't see sh*t. There - solved your pathetic "miracle". If this is the best your god can do - he ain't worth spitting at...