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 (February 16, 2016 at 4:41 pm)TheRealJoeFish Wrote: Clearly, Pepsi has far greater moral clarity and resolve of conscience than Coke. Ahh, no. No one has made that "joke." ...For a good reason. (February 16, 2016 at 4:43 pm)Nihilist Virus Wrote:yes.(February 16, 2016 at 3:44 pm)Drich Wrote: again it is not morality. It's righteousness. Again Righteousness is not assigned by evaluating action and judging it good or bad. It is following the command of God.  (February 17, 2016 at 9:55 am)Drich Wrote:(February 16, 2016 at 4:43 pm)Nihilist Virus Wrote: So... when God said that the slave owners could use the virgins as "breeding fodder" or whatever it is you said, this was a righteous commandment?yes. Spoken like the true sheep you are. As I've said before, remove the Bible, replace with the Q'uran and you're blowing yourself to shit in the hope of 72 bodies of breeding fodder.
You may refer to me as "Oh High One."
 RE: pop morality
February 17, 2016 at 10:55 am
(This post was last modified: February 17, 2016 at 10:56 am by robvalue.)
It's not, of course. It's following the word of men who presume to speak for God.
What a thoroughly dangerous idea. And it has nothing to do with the morality of caring about anyone but yourself. It's about licking boots for rewards and fuck everyone else. If this is the case you present, is it any wonder we want nothing to do with it?  (February 17, 2016 at 11:32 am)Drich Wrote: Is it worth it? For me the answer is no. EVEN If it means I get labeled 'evil' by those who live by the rules of pop culture. To me that does not sound like an unfair cost. ... said Osama bin Laden, right before he launched the attacks against the Great Satan. 
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love. RE: pop morality
February 17, 2016 at 1:16 pm
(This post was last modified: February 17, 2016 at 1:23 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Quote:And that's why slaves still today work themselves to death, or work in jobs and places that cut their lives short. so you and people like you can pretend to be better men than your grandfathers.-and yet here I remain in opposition to slavery, sub standard wages, and substandard working conditions...whilst you defend them and claim their necessity (regardless of how idiotically you've defined them). I don't really know whether or not I'm a better man than my grandfather (or yours)........but I know enough about you to make a comparison. Quote:Is it worth it? is your self righteousness/The right you take from your position, to look down at me worth the lives of the men women and children who work in the shadows to provide you with you way of life?I take my right to look down upon you from your own comments, nothing else. You can no more competently defend yourself in this regard than you can defend your god, and so, instead, you babble ceaselessly about the flaws of others...real or imagined.....just as you do for god. Quote:For me the answer is no. EVEN If it means I get labeled 'evil' by those who live by the rules of pop culture. To me that does not sound like an unfair cost.For you the answer is that it's necessary, and that many depend upon it, that god allows it, and that all moral systems are insufficient and irrelevant to it. Or had you forgotten? I have to ask, are you now attempting to paint yourself as being compassionate, or in opposition to those things which you've spent page after page defending? Do you think anyone will buy it, after all of that?
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The only difference between a "nice" person following the word of God and someone like a member of ISIS is which particular God / voice in their head it is, and which interpretation they follow. None of this has anything to do with thinking for yourself about what is a decent way to behave. Of course, "nice" people don't follow the word of God at all, they just claim to while ignoring almost all of it.
(February 17, 2016 at 1:18 pm)robvalue Wrote: The only difference between a "nice" person following the word of God and someone like a member of ISIS is which particular God / voice in their head it is, and which interpretation they follow. None of this has anything to do with thinking for yourself about what is a decent way to behave. Of course, "nice" people don't follow the word of God at all, they just claim to while ignoring almost all of it. You do understand that your cliche'd answers have been undermine by the OP right? You do understand the point I am making? That "nice people" is a meaningless term unless you have a fixed standard to compare them to? Maybe if you do not understand what I mean you could ask a question, or explain how you feel your version of 'nice people' are better than the 'nice people' someone in ISIS would identify. "Nice, Good, Moral" all subjective terms that hold no real meaning outside of the societies that define them. And if you understand these points, then why return to an argument that makes you look foolish? |
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