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RE: Well, that was fun!
March 9, 2016 at 6:38 pm
(This post was last modified: March 9, 2016 at 6:38 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Probably too busy knocking on the doors of borrowers and pledge-ees who are behind on their payments for a building that the society will -continue- to hold the deed and title to even after repayment.
We're all small potatoes, we "worldy" peoples, compared to that.
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RE: Well, that was fun!
March 9, 2016 at 11:36 pm
(March 9, 2016 at 12:01 pm)Drich Wrote: (March 9, 2016 at 11:49 am)Stimbo Wrote: Okay, so I'm here at my parents' house (where the internet lives), minding my own business with Facebook, YouTube etc. I wasn't really thinking of logging in here until later, if at all. Then my Dad comes in and tells me he'd like my help with a Jehovah Witness at the door, seeing as I'm more experienced at these things than he is. Bear in mind that door visits like this are so rare for me as to be non-existent. However, when he told me the guy was talking about "the circle of the Earth", I sort of had a minor prophecy of what to expect.
And I wasn't disappointed. I was given a strange mixture of softball topics, like the above circle of the Earth and "hangeth the Earth on nothing", and general limp "how do you explain this, this and this". For a start, he seemed genuinely confused when I asked him what happened to the pillars that the Earth used to stand on (1 Samuel 2:8; Job 9:6 - interestingly a few chapters before the "hangeth upon nothing" reference).
Throughout the exchange, I was able to keep him relatively on track, largely thanks to my experience here, and shut down his red herring deflections. More than that, I took charge of the conversation and steered it the way I wanted iit to go, rather than let him lead me by the nose. He mentioned prophecy; I brought up Tyre. He spoke of evidence in the bible; I told him that's the claim, not the evidence, and asked him if he believes me that I have a solid gold 'phone. He said he might if I had evidence, to which I asked why he doesn't merely believe my claim. He said he isn't a literal creationist, as the word for "day" in Genesis is apparently similar in idiom to our saying "back in my day"; so I asked how long plants had to survive on a sunless Earth - an age, or a 24-hour period.
He did speak of the popular "water canopy", which I instantly identified as the Hovind "Theory" and said as much. He apparently didn't know who Hovind is.
All in all, it was a very amicable chat and I really enjoyed myself. It was literally my first real face-to-face encounter (I don't go looking for this stuff). My Dad was really proud of me. You didn't invite them in did you? Because even if you think you won this debate, you get marked for follow ups with people in their church who are 'stronger' in their faith. and they may come in pairs next time. The first encounter is like cold calling, and if you invite them in you are generally in for 6 months of saying "no" before someone gets it.
My sister did this very thing and she wound up hiding when ever her door bell rang in the middle of the day.
I've had Mormons visit my house, which I invited in; and true, while they did return for a second visit with "stronger" Mormons, they've never been back ever since. That was at least 6 - 7 years ago.
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RE: Well, that was fun!
March 10, 2016 at 12:06 am
I find it incredible that they'd bother revisiting a skeptic's house. It's not like there they're likely to succeed. Why not move on to lower hanging fruit?
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RE: Well, that was fun!
March 10, 2016 at 12:41 pm
(March 10, 2016 at 12:06 am)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: I find it incredible that they'd bother revisiting a skeptic's house. It's not like there they're likely to succeed. Why not move on to lower hanging fruit?
If you invite them in, to them you show intrest and become that low hanging fruit.
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RE: Well, that was fun!
March 10, 2016 at 4:26 pm
One of my family members supervised a mormon volunteer at her place of work. Sis didn't seem to think she got any converts there, and my non-mormon sister rather enjoyed working that poor mormon girl to the limit.
I noticed she was VERY organized in how she carried out tasks; cleaning was done sequentially around the room, vacuum cleaner tracks in the rug were laid out with laser precision, rest room sanitized sufficiently I'd let most of my friends eat off the floor.
Don't know how many beatings it takes to get a kid to grow up to be that anal retentive about cleaning shit, but I'd estimate quite a few.
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RE: Well, that was fun!
March 10, 2016 at 5:44 pm
(March 10, 2016 at 12:41 pm)Drich Wrote: (March 10, 2016 at 12:06 am)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: I find it incredible that they'd bother revisiting a skeptic's house. It's not like there they're likely to succeed. Why not move on to lower hanging fruit?
If you invite them in, to them you show intrest and become that low hanging fruit.
I invite you to contemplate the meaning and implications of the highlighted word.
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