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Three Questions for God
#51
RE: Three Questions for God
(April 22, 2016 at 10:36 am)Stimbo Wrote: Interesting how the only 'answers' forthcoming are from someone fantasising how this god might think whilst admitting that they're not in a position to speak for it. I wonder why that is?

I am not in a position to directly speak for God on these very specific question because nothing directly address these detail specifics. However there are larger principles at play that an answer can be derived.
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#52
RE: Three Questions for God
And these principles would be..?

If you reveal them, we could cut out the middle man and get answers direct from the source. We wouldn't need an interpreter.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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#53
RE: Three Questions for God
Attempting to equivocate the word "see" is a sophomoric tactic. I'll give you one more chance to demonstrate you are capable of answering clearly and directly without equivocations or metaphors. Let's just stick with trying to get a solid answer to the initial part of my first question for the moment. The dialogue so far...

(April 18, 2016 at 9:41 am)Time Traveler Wrote: 1) You remained hidden for so long. Did you wait to reveal yourself until now because the religious wars between Islam and Christianity, Protestant and Catholic, etc., amused you?

(April 21, 2016 at 9:45 am)Drich Wrote: 1)I'm in plain sight, you just have your eyes closed to me.

(April 18, 2016 at 9:41 am)Time Traveler Wrote: 1) Actually, my eyes are open, and I don't see you O' Lord. Are you saying you are indeed visible between about 390 to 700nm on the electromagnetic spectrum which is the typical range detectable by human eyes? Or are you speaking in abstruse, meaningless metaphors again?

(April 21, 2016 at 9:45 am)Drich Wrote: If you lack wisdom or understanding of a metaphor then why do you not ask?
To "see" even in the English can also mean to understand a process or to know how something works beyond what you can physically see. EG: can you 'see' how that would work, Can you see why "X" Is important. So then why assume we are speaking about reflected light? Even if we were, why assume you were pointed in the right direction with in the correct proximity of what is to be physically seen? What if I told you both were possible if you were simply humble enough to Ask Seek and knock for what to physically look for and understand?

Q1: Is God visible in the typical range detectable by human eyes? Yes or no.
Q2: If yes, then what is the "right direction" and "correct proximity" to visually detect him?
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#54
RE: Three Questions for God
What options do we have, for people who "see/sense" God?

1) They really do see something I wouldn't see if I was next to them. They're delusional (or I am).

2) They see what I see, but they call it evidence of god's presence.

3) They hear/smell/touch/feel something that isn't there. They're brain is screwing with them. It's easily done.

4) They're talking shit.

5) They have emotions from the placebo effect and interpret them as God.

6) They really are seeing God.

Did I miss any options?
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#55
RE: Three Questions for God
(April 22, 2016 at 10:35 am)Drich Wrote:
(April 21, 2016 at 10:04 am)Chad32 Wrote: Which god are you?
Is there a holy book that accurately describes what you are as an individual?
How am I supposed to know it when I see it?
The God of the bible

The Bible

It says "The Bible" on it.
I was afraid of that. Pretty much all versions of the bible portray Yahweh as a pretty awful guy.
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10 Christ-like figures that predate Jesus. Link shortened to Chris ate Jesus for some reason...
http://listverse.com/2009/04/13/10-chris...ate-jesus/

Good video to watch, if you want to know how common the Jesus story really is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88GTUXvp-50

A list of biblical contradictions from the infallible word of Yahweh.
http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_m...tions.html

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#56
RE: Three Questions for God
(April 22, 2016 at 10:52 am)Stimbo Wrote: And these principles would be..?

If you reveal them, we could cut out the middle man and get answers direct from the source. We wouldn't need an interpreter.

Principles meaning points in the bible. For instance one of you ask How can I be God. Well the bible does not say how or why that specific member cant be God, It simply states God is The creator, we are the created. So how can the created become or take the role of the Alpha and Omega the creator? They can't. So to say Drich is speaking for God telling atheist member "X" God Says He specific told me that Member X can't be God is wrong. But the bible Says God is the Alpha and Omega therefore to be superseded by a member of creation is not possible is the principle from which I speak that says member "X" can't be God.

Unless he does some bruce almighty thing that is not in the bible...
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#57
RE: Three Questions for God
Curious as to why God started using Greek terminology all of a sudden, right at the end of the book.
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#58
RE: Three Questions for God
(April 22, 2016 at 12:40 pm)Time Traveler Wrote: Attempting to equivocate the word "see" is a sophomoric tactic. I'll give you one more chance to demonstrate you are capable of answering clearly and directly without equivocations or metaphors. Let's just stick with trying to get a solid answer to the initial part of my first question for the moment. The dialogue so far...
A 'fresh-manic' tactic is to move the goal posts, pout and try and ban a 'tactic' that has bettered you the last 3 exchanges.

If you want to ask Can you literally see God then ask that question, If you want to ask is God limited to metaphor and parable then ask that question. If you have any other question ask them. The answers are there, you just have to Ask/Seek and Knock for them. If you can not bring yourself to ask the question then you are not ready to hear the answers.


Quote:Q1: Is God visible in the typical range detectable by human eyes? Yes or no.
Q2: If yes, then what is the "right direction" and "correct proximity" to visually detect him?
1.Yes if you simply Ask Seek and Knock for the Holy Spirit as outlined in Luke 11.

2. It depends on how hard your heart is to Him.
If God stood before you right now would you be able to identify Him? What if (like Morgan freedman's Character) He looked like everyone else? How would you identify Him? What if He was not the God of your stereotypes and imaginings? Would you heart be open to change what you think you know of God? Or do you have a singular picture God is "X" and must behave or act a certain way?
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#59
RE: Three Questions for God
(April 22, 2016 at 1:00 pm)robvalue Wrote: What options do we have, for people who "see/sense" God?

1) They really do see something I wouldn't see if I was next to them. They're delusional (or I am).
In my messenger/message thread I relayed my experience with a 'Messenger of God' Everything I did, saw,heard, came from a Big black man wearing a camo Jacket, beanie hat and dirty blue jeans. I shook a mans hand and gave a man a dollar. I did I uturn in my car and he was gone. that fast. Did anyone else seem him I have no idea, but I sure did.

Quote:2) They see what I see, but they call it evidence of god's presence.
The evidence is not found in what I saw, but what he has told me and what has come true over the last 20+ years.

Quote:3) They hear/smell/touch/feel something that isn't there. They're brain is screwing with them. It's easily done.
As with Pharaoh's scourers the effect maybe able to be duplucated, but the content and accuracy of the message is always lacking.

Quote:4) They're talking shit.
Or you just to REALLY REALLY Need to be able to dismiss what people like me have to say so you can sleep at night.

Quote:5) They have emotions from the placebo effect and interpret them as God.
Some ABSOLUTELY Do! While Other experience the God's honest Truth.

Quote:6) They really are seeing God.
Some are and the way to tell the difference is always message and content. Because "God" is not the only one who can appear to folks.

Quote:Did I miss any options?
Just the one, that I just corrected.
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#60
RE: Three Questions for God
(April 22, 2016 at 1:56 pm)Chad32 Wrote:
(April 22, 2016 at 10:35 am)Drich Wrote: The God of the bible

The Bible

It says "The Bible" on it.
I was afraid of that. Pretty much all versions of the bible portray Yahweh as a pretty awful guy.

 Yes I could see how awful people..would just God awful
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