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RE: Someone stole the body!
June 1, 2016 at 12:52 pm
(May 30, 2016 at 5:55 pm)Thena323 Wrote: (May 30, 2016 at 4:12 pm)Godschild Wrote: Allah is a false moon god and has no power over me.
GC
What if you're wrong, GC?
If that turns out to be the case, I'll gladly save you a seat in Hell; Considering I'm able to, of course.
I'm about 5 '3, and will be wearing a purple pea jacket. 
Thena323, I'm not wrong research the earliest times of the god called Allah. Why do you think they have a crescent moon with a star inside the points of the crescent, something not possible in nature, look it up i think you will find it quite different than the Jewish and Christian God.
Since I'm not wrong I want be in hell and hope you avoid that place, as Jesus says,"what good does it do a man to gain the whole world yet lose his soul for eternity." If we are to part ways at death I would rather meet you in this life, if for no other reason than to have a nice conversation.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: Someone stole the body!
June 1, 2016 at 12:58 pm
(June 1, 2016 at 11:34 am)IATIA Wrote: (June 1, 2016 at 11:03 am)Godschild Wrote: Really, why? I'm not sue why one would choose an eternal life of punishment over an eternal life greater than one can imagine.
GC
First of all, there is no god, heaven or hell, but for sake of argument, we will accept the bible as the word of god.
The bible god is a warmonger.
One third of the angels left heaven (I guess it is not really that great after all).
Satan does nothing immoral according to the bible.
The only thing Satan did was piss off god by showing Adam and Eve the path to true freedom and happiness.
Even in the Job story, I see nowhere in the bible that states Satan actually did the killing.
Nowhere in the bible has Satan lied. There are only unfounded suggestions and statements to that effect.
It was not until Dante's 'Inferno' that Satan really started getting a bad rap.
So yes, I definitely choose hell over heaven.
All I know to say in response to your answer is this, you know nothing about the scriptures, I hope it's not because God has given you a mind of confusion because you have mocked the work of the Holy Spirit.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: Someone stole the body!
June 1, 2016 at 1:06 pm
(June 1, 2016 at 12:44 pm)IATIA Wrote: (June 1, 2016 at 12:39 pm)Godschild Wrote: God is absolutely moral, it is His nature, God can not sin.
Not according to the bible I read. But, of course, theists can make up any story they want and it is still a story.
On the other hand; Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely and I guess god can do anything it wants and say it is good regardless. After all, god has no one to answer to.
You are totally wrong, though you are closer to a truth than you know. Absolute power can not corrupt the un-corruptible God of creation, He is in control of all things and without sin.
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God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: Someone stole the body!
June 1, 2016 at 1:35 pm
(June 1, 2016 at 11:01 am)Godschild Wrote: (May 30, 2016 at 5:33 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: Likely because 'holy' is a purposely vague term with no real meaning.
Wrong! Try again.
GC
Holy is a synonym for sacred, which is essentially 'something deserving veneration because it's connected to god or religious practice'.
Ultimately, it's a mindless, meaningless term. Things connected to god are holy. Okay. So what? Why should I care? Why should I give extra consideration to what your god considers holy when you can't even convince me he even exists?
'Holy' holds no value to the unbeliever. And even if you're trying to imply that sin is the opposite of holy, it still doesn't address why an all-powerful being would care. So, again I state: your god needs thicker skin.
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RE: Someone stole the body!
June 1, 2016 at 1:38 pm
Quote:Holy is a synonym for sacred, which is essentially 'something deserving veneration because it's connected to god or religious practice'.
I use "shitty" to make that connection!
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RE: Someone stole the body!
June 1, 2016 at 1:48 pm
(June 1, 2016 at 12:58 pm)Godschild Wrote: (June 1, 2016 at 11:34 am)IATIA Wrote:
All I know to say in response to your answer is this, you know nothing about the scriptures, I hope it's not because God has given you a mind of confusion because you have mocked the work of the Holy Spirit.
GC
Got some verses to show me wrong.
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RE: Someone stole the body!
June 1, 2016 at 3:00 pm
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(June 1, 2016 at 11:09 am)Godschild Wrote: (May 30, 2016 at 4:35 pm)Jehanne Wrote: How do you know that? JC was a Jewish apocalyptic prophet, now dead, who has power over no one, your imagination notwithstanding.
The most obvious reason I know Allah has no control over me is because I've never heard from him in any way. Jesus is setting at the right hand of the Father awaiting His return to resurrect his people, He guides my life every day through the Holy Spirit. Because you do not understand doesn't mean what I know as fact isn't true, actually it means you have deluded yourself unfortunately.
GC
GC, I was a professing Christian for over 30 years of my life; JC, nor THG, never, ever spoke to me once. Never. Prayer, for me, was always a one-away conversation, with myself. Continue to stir the bullshit clockwise, GC; some others stir it counter-clockwise. In the end, it all smells the same.
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RE: Someone stole the body!
June 1, 2016 at 4:32 pm
(June 1, 2016 at 12:52 pm)Godschild Wrote: Since I'm not wrong I want be in hell and hope you avoid that place, as Jesus says,"what good does it do a man to gain the whole world yet lose his soul for eternity." If we are to part ways at death I would rather meet you in this life, if for no other reason than to have a nice conversation.
GC
It'd be nice to meet you too, GC.
It would have been especially nice two weeks ago, when I giving serious thought towards constructing a sizable rabbit hutch; You were the first person that came mind.
As it goes, I wound up buying one instead.
$$$.... 
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RE: Someone stole the body!
June 1, 2016 at 5:57 pm
(This post was last modified: June 1, 2016 at 5:57 pm by Jehanne.)
(June 1, 2016 at 4:32 pm)Thena323 Wrote: (June 1, 2016 at 12:52 pm)Godschild Wrote: Since I'm not wrong I want be in hell and hope you avoid that place, as Jesus says,"what good does it do a man to gain the whole world yet lose his soul for eternity." If we are to part ways at death I would rather meet you in this life, if for no other reason than to have a nice conversation.
GC
It'd be nice to meet you too, GC.
It would have been especially nice two weeks ago, when I giving serious thought towards constructing a sizable rabbit hutch; You were the first person that came mind.
As it goes, I wound up buying one instead.
$$$....
This reminds me of one of my first posts here on this board, "Would you, as an atheist, be willing to have sex with a Christian fundamentalist?"
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RE: Someone stole the body!
June 1, 2016 at 5:58 pm
(June 1, 2016 at 5:57 pm)Jehanne Wrote: (June 1, 2016 at 4:32 pm)Thena323 Wrote: It'd be nice to meet you too, GC.
It would have been especially nice two weeks ago, when I giving serious thought towards constructing a sizable rabbit hutch; You were the first person that came mind.
As it goes, I wound up buying one instead.
$$$....
This reminds me of one of my first posts here on this board, "Would you, as an atheist, be willing to have sex with a Christian fundamentalist?"
Well, a Christian fundamentalist probably wouldn't touch me anyway but absolutely not. 
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