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Do theists need a threat to be moral?
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RE: Do theists need a threat to be moral?
(June 13, 2016 at 2:08 pm)robvalue Wrote: Well, better is again entirely subjective. It's often not better from the point of view of the well-being of society at large. But they have made no choice to be this way.

In fact I take it fully into account. I don't expect the same behaviour from a psychopath as I would from a normal person. Obviously anyone who is killing people needs to be removed from society, but I don't hold a psychopath morally accountable. They have no moral, in extreme cases. They are amoral.

Psychopathology exists on a sliding scale. I expect the behaviors/morals to parallel their disease state.
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RE: Do theists need a threat to be moral?
You're quite right. I have been talking mainly about the most extreme cases.

(June 13, 2016 at 2:18 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: I don't think so.

They use the same moral sense that nontheists do, they just attribute it to their gods.

As far as I can tell, according to the Bible, it is moral to kill witches (Exodus 22:18). Yet, other than a few Christian Pastors in Africa. the vast majority of Christians would not.

A very good point. Theists mostly filter their religion to fit their morality, not the other way around.
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RE: Do theists need a threat to be moral?
Many are under the impression that it doesn't need any fitting - even as they cram that heifer into a shoe two sizes too small.
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RE: Do theists need a threat to be moral?
Yeah...

It is painful to me watching someone trying to contort reality and twist words to try and make the two converge.
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