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Orlando shooting/The non gun debate
#31
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate
(June 14, 2016 at 4:24 pm)abaris Wrote:
(June 14, 2016 at 4:19 pm)Drich Wrote: Again if this were true, then by not denouncing 'radical islam' what we consider moderate islamists themselves are not moderate.

Maybe have an informed opinion before spewing bullshit? As I said above, they always distance themselves. After every given attack. You just have to look, since news like that aren't as juicy as the attacks themselves.

Again the action begs the question why? why not say these actions are not apart of the faith, are evil, and those who do such things have no place in allah's paradise?
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#32
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate
Why don't they denounce them?

-They do

But why don't they denounce them?

-they do........

But why don't they de..

-ffs.

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#33
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate
(June 14, 2016 at 4:26 pm)Drich Wrote: Again the action begs the question why? why not say these actions are not apart of the faith, are evil, and those who do such things have no place in allah's paradise?

You mean like the pastors do when some of their radicals shoot up another abortion clinic. They really find clear words for why this is part of their religion.
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#34
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate
(June 14, 2016 at 12:06 pm)Drich Wrote:
(June 14, 2016 at 9:46 am)dyresand Wrote: This was a act of terror and bigotry hell the police prevented another mass shooting as well recently.
So take away everyone's guns no it should be that gun regulation as it stands is a complete failure and needs to be dramatically overhauled.
The fact being a mentally unstable person can get a gun and also one that has a been investigated and been visited by the FBI should not
be able to get a weapon. A lot more needs to be done in this country to prevent the mentally unstable from getting a gun and the other thing
the whole FBI thing should be enough for any responsible gun seller to say no. Getting a gun as it stands needs to be tougher and prevent
people who want to cause harm with a firearm.

There are no wrong answers, but this is a wrong answer, as this is the non gun debate thread doofus. I do not want to talk about how guns are ban in paris and this sort of thing still happened.. twice.

There is a thing called the black market and of course you could ban guns someone is always going to find a way to get them. 
I am saying is we need better regulation here state side to prevent people that can and could cause harm to others preventing them 
from getting guns. I am in favor of the 2nd amendment you can have a assault style rifle and 30+ round magazine if.. get this if..
you are responsible and not i repeat not a danger to society.
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#35
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate
Fuck it. There will never be sane gun control in the US, so you might as well go the other way. Start handing out guns in schools to every kid. Make pensioners pack shotguns and throw in free ammo with their pension.
But why stop there? People still wouldn't be safe enough.
The next phase is clearly to start surgically implanting high-powered arm cannons into unborn babies, and genetically engineering a brand-new kind of organ that produces bullets. Then, and only then, will The People be safe.
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#36
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate
(June 14, 2016 at 12:51 pm)Bella Morte Wrote:
(June 14, 2016 at 12:44 pm)Whateverist the White Wrote: But it really is about the guns.  Okay.  Carry on.

And radical Islam.

Well sorta.

But mainly guns, yeah.

Don't forget the importance of high capacity magazines in case, you know, the deer shoots back.
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#37
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate
(June 14, 2016 at 7:01 pm)Iroscato Wrote: Fuck it. There will never be sane gun control in the US, so you might as well go the other way. Start handing out guns in schools to every kid. Make pensioners pack shotguns and throw in free ammo with their pension.
But why stop there? People still wouldn't be safe enough.
The next phase is clearly to start surgically implanting high-powered arm cannons into unborn babies, and genetically engineering a brand-new kind of organ that produces bullets. Then, and only then, will The People be safe.

Hey congrats you just solved the over population issue since most children would look down the barrel. 


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#38
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate
(June 14, 2016 at 5:45 pm)dyresand Wrote: I am saying is we need better regulation here state side to prevent people that can and could cause harm to others preventing them 
from getting guns. I am in favor of the 2nd amendment you can have a assault style rifle and 30+ round magazine if.. get this if..
you are responsible and not i repeat not a danger to society.

I am 100% pro gun and I agree with you. The problem is that a lot of the shooters have no derogatory history. As to terrorists and psychos, I say shoot them into space for all I care, but the ones that will kill, but have no history to suggest they will, how does one pick them out before they snap? That will quickly get one into that grey area which will ultimately spread like a cancer.
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#39
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate
(June 14, 2016 at 7:30 pm)ignoramus Wrote: Don't forget the importance of high capacity magazines in case, you know, the deer shoots back.

No silly. The deer are not going to shoot back. I just do not want to put my beer down to reload. Big Grin
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#40
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate
And that is exactly why these types of mass shootings will never end.
You cannot legislate against sane people's unpredictability.
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