Let's see how many apologetics take the bait

[Wyrd of Gawd]

And it's still a contradiction due to the lack of specifics in God's statements. This is where the witness usually amends their testimony to convey what's being said easier. This of course would make sense if God was human and more prone to making contradictory statements.

There is no lack of specifics if you ever cared to read and study the Bible. Like was said earlier the laws given Noah have always been true for the Gentile world, God eventually chose a man to form a nation which He did in Egypt for 400 years where they were kept safe until their numbers grew to a size God was ready to use. When they were in the desert God gave this group of people, His chosen one's new laws and the one about the pigs was for them and not the Gentiles as many others were. Look at this way a man starts a business and sets down rules for his employs, then he expands his business to in another building in another town far away and gives those employs a set of rules some that are the opposite of what he gave to the other employs, it's his right because he own's the business. The rules are not contradictory because they apply to two different sets of people in different situations. Hope this will clear up things for you even though I believe it was made plan by the other Christians to start with. You have a lot to learn. Most the atheist consider themselves logically superior to Christians on this site, seems to me they have little grasp on what logic actually is.

GC

Only crazy people believe in ethnocentric Middle Eastern Jewish and Arabian religious fairy tales.
https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Titus%201:14

[Joods]

I have responded. Are you going to actually read or are you just going to keep being delusional about that?

...the second one directly contradicts the first (skip), ...the second one directly contradicts the first (skip), ...the second one directly contradicts the first (skip), ...the second one directly contradicts the first (skip), ...the second one directly contradicts the first (skip),...

The contradiction is all in your mind. Huggy and I both pointed out that each command was given during two very different dispensations and that the Mosaic laws were given to a specific nation while the Gentiles remained bound by Noahide laws. Do you not understand that sometimes commands are given to specific individuals and groups? Just because God commanded Noah and Moses to build arks doesn’t mean everyone else has to build boats and hope chests.

If you wish to continue beclowning yourself be my guest.

Point out EACH SEPARATE post that I have PERSONALLY made where I have REPEATED myself using those EXACT words.

If you can't (and I know you can't because I haven't done that) then you are a delusional piece of shit not worthy of any toilet paper used to wipe you off of these forums with.

The contradiction is in black in white. In your precious holy book. It's not in my mind, but by all means... keep continuing to buy into that bullshit argument.

As for Noah and the ark... cute, touching, genocidal story. I'll bet you believe it actually happened too, right?

[Joods]

"Everything that lives and moves about will be food for you. Just as I gave you the green plants, I now give you everything." - Genesis 9:3

Forgive me for being ignorant, but the 'you' in Genesis 9:3 that was given the green plants sounds like a continuation of the promise made to Adam that he would eat of the fruits of the field.  This sounds like an addendum to a generational promise, not a promise made specifically to apply to Noah.

Well, for starters, I never claimed that it specifically applied to Noah. I quoted two verses because the point was both contradict one another. Could I have used other examples in the bible that contradict each other, sure. There are plenty to choose from. But being as I don't believe anyone here has ever posted this particular contradiction, it was a good one to post.

[Redbeard The Pink]

Why'd he make an unnecessary law that wasn't needed back in Genesis and was then later scraped in the New Testament?

Was he mad at pigs, or something?

Who knows for sure, but maybe pigs were carrying a sickness or disease that would have changed the course of History if they were eaten by the jews in that time period. (no refrigeration, plus medium rare is how most everyone ate everything) This would also account for the law that says Jew must eat everything well done. (no blood in the meat)

Drich, you have to be careful saying things like that around wizards. That was so ad hoc I just shit a goblin. Knobby little buggers, those.

[vorlon13]

Huh ?


wut ?

[Redbeard The Pink]

Huh ?


wut ?

That's exactly what I said. You spying on me?

[vorlon13]

I was overcome with the excretory imagery there for just a sec . . .

Your prose packs quite a wallop.

Salute!

[T.J.]

Perhaps we're asking the wrong questions. The atheists and theists in this thread are coming at this with two very different viewpoints based on their own logic and understanding. Ah, the wonders of the human brain. How do we look at things from a more objective viewpoint to find a means to measure one idea over the other and determine which is true to accept the premise? If there is no objectify and it's all subjective then would this thread boil down to an exchange of ideas and what it means to consider the opposite perspective?

[Neo-Scholastic]

Pigs are exceptionally clean.

You have obviously never raised hogs.

[Joods]

What it is, is that the christards don't want their holy book being picked apart, judged and criticized for obvious blatant errors. They want us all to pretend it's a perfect book with no contradictions in it. They also want us to believe that their "loving" god isn't genocidal - you know.. keep that happy story of the ark we were all told about as children, instead of seeing it as it really is... the murder of thousands of innocent people all because god wanted to start over with a fresh batch of victims humans because he didn't like how the first ones turned out. Oh, and that's not the only occurrence of genocide at the hands of the all-loving imaginary sky daddy, the book mentions.

But I guess that was all part of "his plan".  And he knew it was going to happen because of being omniscient.