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Do I sound like the "devil" to you? My mother thinks I speak like the devil...
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RE: Do I sound like the "devil" to you? My mother thinks I speak like the de...
(July 3, 2016 at 12:36 pm)Lek Wrote:
(July 3, 2016 at 1:31 am)robvalue Wrote: Just to be clear, you don't have to like gay sex. You don't have to find the idea comfortable even. Maybe you don't even want to hear about it, or think about it. That's up to you.

But the moment you promote a stance that there is actually something wrong with it, further to your own personal discomfort, you are a bigot. You're encouraging people to find real fault with such actions.

You say I'm a bigot because I think there is something with homosexual sex?  That's Crazy.  That means I'm a huge bigot because I also believe that having sex outside of marriage is wrong.  I also think that drunkenness is wrong.  And I believe Democrats are wrong most of the time.  That makes me a super bigot.  By the way, you're a bigot too because you think that theism is wrong.  Your'e promoting a stance that makes people think that there is something wrong with it.  That's the usual response to anyone who believe that homosexual acts are wrong.  Just label them a bigot.

As far as homosexuality being a natural inclination, christians must daily go against their natural inclinations as do most non-christian people.

Theism is wrong and hasn't provided or done anything important for as long as it has been around it only servers to fuck up people and their way of thinking
Name a few things that religion has actually done good for the world and compare it to science and think on that. Religion is made up it was always made up to
being with primitive man and ancient man only really used it for many reasons now religion is no longer important only only servers a label and nothing more. 
If you think that homosexuality is wrong there is a few things okay you may not be homosexual that's fine but there is a difference if you don't like it 
simply don't talk about it. The difference here is you have people going around saying homosexuality is wrong because my god damn book says so that's the difference. 
I am not a bigot i just fucking hate religion in general and i can't be bigoted because well religion it's made up unlike homosexuality which is real.
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#32
RE: Do I sound like the "devil" to you? My mother thinks I speak like the de...
(July 3, 2016 at 12:36 pm)Lek Wrote:
(July 3, 2016 at 1:31 am)robvalue Wrote: Just to be clear, you don't have to like gay sex. You don't have to find the idea comfortable even. Maybe you don't even want to hear about it, or think about it. That's up to you.

But the moment you promote a stance that there is actually something wrong with it, further to your own personal discomfort, you are a bigot. You're encouraging people to find real fault with such actions.

You say I'm a bigot because I think there is something with homosexual sex?  That's Crazy.  That means I'm a huge bigot because I also believe that having sex outside of marriage is wrong.  I also think that drunkenness is wrong.  And I believe Democrats are wrong most of the time.  That makes me a super bigot.  By the way, you're a bigot too because you think that theism is wrong.  Your'e promoting a stance that makes people think that there is something wrong with it.  That's the usual response to anyone who believe that homosexual acts are wrong.  Just label them a bigot.

As far as homosexuality being a natural inclination, christians must daily go against their natural inclinations as do most non-christian people.

No, I said I don't know what your stance is. I said if you voice the opinion that there's something bad/wrong/immoral about something, based only on your own issues and no actual rational justification, you're a bigot. In my opinion. Disregard my opinion as you see fit. If you're against it because you're a Christian, you're a bigot. You're shielding your bigotry instead of owning it.

Sex outside of marriage can have demonstrable harmful effects, due to being outside of marriage specifically. As can drunkeness. You've done exactly what I warned of, comparing it to something not in the same category. It is rather depressing to me when I can just tell you what your next move is, what's wrong with it, and you do it anyway. Man/man sex has no such innate demonstrable immoral consequences that don't require false equivalence.

I think theism is likely factually incorrect. I don't think it's morally wrong. Another false equivocation.

Either you don't understand that these are false analogies, or you're being dishonest to deflect. If it's the former, I'm happy to explain further. But if you double down on more false equivalence I'll just end the conversation.
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RE: Do I sound like the "devil" to you? My mother thinks I speak like the de...
(July 3, 2016 at 4:16 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: Just me, but if my mother, and her evil sisters, made claims like that when I was about to visit them I'd dress like this on the visit:

Are they anything like Marge Simpson's sisters?
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition

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#34
RE: Do I sound like the "devil" to you? My mother thinks I speak like the de...
(July 3, 2016 at 11:47 pm)Alex K Wrote:
(July 3, 2016 at 4:16 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: Just me, but if my mother, and her evil sisters, made claims like that when I was about to visit them I'd dress like this on the visit:

Are they anything like Marge Simpson's sisters?

At a family get together a number of years ago, they bought me a bible.

I responded by buying them a copy of God is NOT Great, by Hitchens.
Dying to live, living to die.
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#35
RE: Do I sound like the "devil" to you? My mother thinks I speak like the devil...
I think my mum's argument was the devil blames God for everything and I do too so I sound like the devil. But who designed the world to be this way? It wasn't Satan. I could easily design a better universe; I would design a universe that actually cares about our existence.

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#36
RE: Do I sound like the "devil" to you? My mother thinks I speak like the devil...
The devil is correct to blame God for everything, unless God is underachieving compared to the usual wild claims made about it.
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#37
RE: Do I sound like the "devil" to you? My mother thinks I speak like the devil...
Actually, I'd say theism is generally incoherent rather than incorrect. Specific forms are extremely likely to be factually incorrect, in my opinion.

Claims regarding facts about reality are not the same as moral opinions about actions.
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RE: Do I sound like the "devil" to you? My mother thinks I speak like the de...
(July 4, 2016 at 12:38 am)robvalue Wrote: The devil is correct to blame God for everything, unless God is underachieving compared to the usual wild claims made about it.

If christianity is true i would rather be in hell hanging out with the devil than god considering god and his followers blame all the fuck ups on the devil
when it's not even his fault.
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RE: Do I sound like the "devil" to you? My mother thinks I speak like the de...
Hi, 

   Guys my name is john i am from india, i am a atheist , the only reaosn i am atheist is beaccause i am sure there is no longer god.  i was hurt a lot  because of these reliogious moral in personal life i lost my love for that , we were separated by force.

i have few questions for the so called believers.


the entire bible is based on fear .
like a didctator
if you love me , praise , give me offerings and spread  my word then you can entire my kingdom or you will burn in HELL FOR ALL ETERNITY.

now the first one love me 
if i go upto a girl and say love me or ill burn you or torture you. what reaction will we get from ongoers , that i am sadist a psycho,a criminal, a sexual preadator

i will leave the thoughts to you


second praise me,

hitler said those who do not use my name as a greeting or salute will be punished 

again think abourt it

give me offerings that is 10%

Benny Hinn

Joyce meyer

in india you wont belive the assholes we have for pastors

all that is done with the offerings
my question what is the purpose.



spread my word - biggest marketing company - quote - chritianity

lets go to the history of bible

abraham is the father of the nation

lets take a look at him according to the bible

his wife sarah , is his step sister,
she allowed him to sleep with another woman , awesome threesome

and after moses god declared incest a immoral sin
wow what a change of events 

solomon the wise  damn this guy was lucky 
number of wifes and the word cocubines (i like that word)

King david -man after his own heart 
watch woman bath hmmmmm
and gets the husband killed rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

joshua were ordered to kill every child , even animals,
what the fuck why children , did jesus says children are the first one to enter the kingdom
oh ! lets kill them and send them to heaven

every reliogion is based on fear 
do this or that 
or else you will go to hell for ENTERNITY
do these assholes even know what eternity is 
i think the eternity is the scare tactics


give donations so preachers dont have to move there hands a bit move around to house pray
and sundays 3 to 4 hours best fucking job


are we puppets for his entertainment 

or is like zeus if we pray to him he gets stronger 

every religion is biggest cant describe brainwash human beings have invented 
and this invention will lead us to our war holocast
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#40
RE: Do I sound like the "devil" to you? My mother thinks I speak like the devil...
Thanks for the support. Going to be reading my new book on Zarathustrians whilst on holiday. So if I sound like a devil now, just wait until I start reading that book. So many similarities with all of the religions of Abraham.

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