BLM Violent Hate Group

[BrokenQuill92]

https://youtu.be/FpVZzQEKs9g

[Losty]

And you're dishonest. That was obviously sarcasm.

This is @A Theist, not BQ

[BrokenQuill92]

And you're dishonest. That was obviously sarcasm.

This is @A Theist, not BQ

I figured Losty

[A Theist]

And you're dishonest. That was obviously sarcasm.

This is @A Theist, not BQ

No it wasn't. He was actually being dishonest. He emboldened part of a reply that I made to Homeless Nutter after he suggested that the cops should shoot a couple of white guys and maybe a woman or two, to please the egalitarians. He also said,

The bolded bit is a very telling comment, indicating that we should like or dislike people based on their melanin content.

I made no such comment and I didn't indicate anything like that. He was dishonest in his response.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

The bolded bit is a very telling comment, indicating that we should like or dislike people based on their melanin content.  Their are black people, white people, and some in-between that I wouldn't have in my home, and it's got fuck all to do with skin tone.

You're a racist.

Boru

....and you're dishonest. I never made any such claim that we should dislike people based on their skin color. You took my comment out of context from a reply I made to Homless Nutter when he suggested that an acceptable solution would be for the cops to "shoot a couple of white guys once in a while"....

Homeless Nutter Wrote: [url=http://atheistforums.org/post-1329057.html#pid1329057][/url]I'd suggest maybe finally stopping playing Wild West, like civilized adults all over the world, but clearly - that's not going to happen in 'Murrica, so perhaps the acceptable solution would be for the cops to shoot a couple of unarmed white guys once in a while? And maybe a woman or 2, to please egalitarians?

No? Well - I don't see anyone else coming up with a better idea...

Obviously, HN has an issue with whites, and since you didn't call him out for suggesting that the cops shoot a couple of white guys,  and "maybe a woman or two", I can only assume that you agree with his position. Is that something you agree with? Would that make things more equal for you?

With all due respect, horseshit.  Nutter's comment was clearly sarcasm - if you didn't pick up on that, you're a bigger fool than you look.  No one in their right mind would suggest that Nutter is advocating the killing of people, white or any other colour.  But YOU, ya gobshyte, clearly and without any attempt at sarcasm or irony, concluded that Nutter doesn't like 'white people'.

Nothing in my remarks was dishonest.  Your statement 'you don't like white people' can only be taken to mean that the colour of someone's skin is a factor in whether or not they should be liked. Furthermore, you entire post is only about the number of white or black people killed, with no attempt to delve into WHY they are killed.

You disingenuousness is breathtaking.

Boru

[paulpablo]

https://youtu.be/FpVZzQEKs9g

1) I think it's illogical to call everyone a racist who brings up the fact that the black murder rate is so high and the majority of it is killing other black people.  

2) Black on black crime isn't a loaded term meant to enable racists.  It's a term describing crime committed by a black person where the victim is a black person.

3) Black people aren't only disenfranchised because of their own behavior but it is in part due to it. Not that I believe all black people are disenfranchised.  

4) We hear about black on black crime in America so much in comparison to white on white crime or asian on asian crime because (a)America is a mainly white country, so in Japan, India, and China I'm sure the people there don't call their crime Asian on Asian crime, and I'm sure people in north africa don't call crime black on black crime.
(b) Black on black crime is more prevalent than asian on asian crime by far. I don't know about Hispanic crime.

5) The problems in the black community are way higher than in most other communities in America white or non white. Things like drugs, broken families, murder and so on.  They are just mentioned more because they are more abundant. Although I agree with the video that this shouldn't be a free pass to kill black people but I wonder who he's arguing against when he says that.

6) He says in a really sarcastic condescending tone that when black people kill black people they're always caught, but then other black people are complaining about why so many black on black murders go unsolved?
So can any white police officers do anything right whatever they do ever?
If they solve the black on black crime it's racist, if they don't solve black on black crime it's racist.

That's all of the video I could be bothered to watch for now.

In anticipation of replies I'm almost certain this post will generate, I know that there possibly are historical reasons and so on why black on black crime is high and the murder rate and so on.  But the fact is that the murder rate is high, and the black community do have a lot of problems. 
It makes no sense to say "Hey why are we talking about black on black crime anyway?  Isn't that racist?"  

I'm not saying there's no problem with police officers killing black people either.

But if the number 1 cause of black on black murder among young black men is murder from other black men it might be worth taking a look into.

http://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/LA...-0016.html

From the look of the guys in this picture they look nearly 25 years old.  Maybe it's time to stop being in gangs and tying colored rags around your head altogether, get a stable family together and not be involved in any criminal gang.  Rather than being proud of being in a criminal gang that unites for one day with another criminal gang.

It would be really heroic if black lives matter worked with the police to take down these pimps and drug dealers in their communities but most of the time they only have the balls to shout in the face of middle class white people.  That's all I ever seem to hear about anyway.

[Losty]

And you're dishonest. That was obviously sarcasm.

This is @A Theist, not BQ

No it wasn't. He was actually being dishonest. He emboldened part of a reply that I made to Homeless Nutter after he suggested that the cops should shoot a couple of white guys and maybe a woman or two, to please the egalitarians. He also said,

The bolded bit is a very telling comment, indicating that we should like or dislike people based on their melanin content.

I made no such comment and I didn't indicate anything like that. He was dishonest in his response.

What homeless nutter said was clear and obvious sarcasm. If you want to respond to sarcasm by insinuating that the person who used it hates white people then you have no business being upset by anyone who responds to your disingenuous post by calling you a racist. No reasonable person would have looked at HN's post and thought he was genuinely being racist against white people, Hillary.

[Regina]

I'd suggest maybe finally stopping playing Wild West, like civilized adults all over the world, but clearly - that's not going to happen in 'Murrica, so perhaps the acceptable solution would be for the cops to shoot a couple of unarmed white guys once in a while? And maybe a woman or 2, to please egalitarians?

No? Well - I don't see anyone else coming up with a better idea...

You'll be happy to know, since you obviously don't like white people, that the percentage in the killing of unarmed whites in 2016 by the police is exactly the same for black people and more whites are shot by the police than black people are. The far and vast majority of blacks who are murdered each year are committed by other blacks.

First off, if the percentage of blacks who are killed is the same as the percentage of whites who are killed, that's still a very disproportionate number of black people. Black people are only what, 10-15% of America? For there to be absolutely no racial bias in these killings, only 10-15% of police brutality victims should be black. It's far more than 15% going on the frequency of which we hear about it compared to whites being killed.

Also "black-on-black crime" is not a thing. When a black person kills another black person, it's wrong of course, but they're not killing eachother because they're black. Most murders are intraracial (within the same race) because of the generally segregated nature of American neighbourhoods. Most white murder victims are murdered by other white people, is that "white-on-white crime"? Nobody ever calls it that unless it's black people involved.

ETA pretty much what the guy in that video BQ posted earlier was saying, just saw that.

[paulpablo]

You'll be happy to know, since you obviously don't like white people, that the percentage in the killing of unarmed whites in 2016 by the police is exactly the same for black people and more whites are shot by the police than black people are. The far and vast majority of blacks who are murdered each year are committed by other blacks.

First off, if the percentage of blacks who are killed is the same as the percentage of whites who are killed, that's still a very disproportionate number of black people. Black people are only what, 10-15% of America? For there to be absolutely no racial bias in these killings, only 10-15% of police brutality victims should be black. It's far more than 15% going on the frequency of which we hear about it compared to whites being killed.

Also "black-on-black crime" is not a thing. When a black person kills another black person, it's wrong of course, but they're not killing eachother because they're black. Most murders are intraracial (within the same race) because of the generally segregated nature of American neighbourhoods. Most white murder victims are murdered by other white people, is that "white-on-white crime"? Nobody ever calls it that unless it's black people involved.

ETA pretty much what the guy in that video BQ posted earlier was saying, just saw that.

Black on black crime is a thing because it's very notable.  Black people are being killed at a higher rate than any other racial group in America relative to the size of their population.  Black people are the ones doing the majority of the murdering.

And just as I said in my previous post, people will call the police racist if they do solve the crime and catch the black people doing it and they will be called racist if they don't solve the crime and don't capture the black people doing it.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/...27596.html

Analysis of figures released by the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime (UNDOC) and the US Center for Disease Control bydata blog FiveThirtyEight found an average of 19.4 African Americans per 100,000 people were murdered between 2010 and 2012. 

The second highest rate was in Lithuania with 6.9 people per 100,000 were murdered.

The Hispanic population in the US had a murder rate of about 5.3 per 100,000 people – roughly same as the overall national average of 5.2 – but white people had a murder rate of just 2.5 per 100,000. 

The average rate for the developed world is about 1.6 per 100,000. 

[paulpablo]

You'll be happy to know, since you obviously don't like white people, that the percentage in the killing of unarmed whites in 2016 by the police is exactly the same for black people and more whites are shot by the police than black people are. The far and vast majority of blacks who are murdered each year are committed by other blacks.

First off, if the percentage of blacks who are killed is the same as the percentage of whites who are killed, that's still a very disproportionate number of black people. Black people are only what, 10-15% of America? For there to be absolutely no racial bias in these killings, only 10-15% of police brutality victims should be black. It's far more than 15% going on the frequency of which we hear about it compared to whites being killed.

Also "black-on-black crime" is not a thing. When a black person kills another black person, it's wrong of course, but they're not killing eachother because they're black. Most murders are intraracial (within the same race) because of the generally segregated nature of American neighbourhoods. Most white murder victims are murdered by other white people, is that "white-on-white crime"? Nobody ever calls it that unless it's black people involved.

ETA pretty much what the guy in that video BQ posted earlier was saying, just saw that.

Also the rates of police brutality should be totally proportional to the population size if no racial bias is involved but that's only if each population commits equal amounts of crime, resists arrest at the same rate, and acts violently towards the police at the same rate.

Obviously ideally the rates of police brutality should be 0 across the board but if one group has more interaction with the police and commits more crime and resists arrest more you would probably expect to see police brutality instances rise just because of increased interaction with the police.