Is white privilege real? To what extent?

[RobertE]

What you mean is that if I complain about you making sarcastic pointless comments you're going to excuse yourself by claiming it was a joke all along.

That's not even close to what I said. The conversation going full circle means you have points, other people gave points, an agreement was not made so you gave the same points, the same rebuttals were made...still no agreement. Rinse wash repeat. We don't agree on the matter (though I think your views and mine are very very close on this subject) no amount of repeating the same arguments back and forth at each other over and over will change that. Stalemate. And so begins jokes because I got tired of watching the paint on my argument dry after I made it for the 3rd time.

Again, I reiterate that Paul didn't actually say that white privilege doesn't exist, quite the contrary in fact. However, the fact that he took that particular position meant that the ida of white privilege could be extended to other races, other religions, other creeds and other countries. Your argument is based solely on your opinion and you weren't able to talk further about the possibility of other races having special privileges. This was your downfall. Nothing against you Losty of course, it is just the way I read it.

[Losty]

Well I'll be. I suppose I'll stop using all those big bad swear words that stop me from being able to be an objective debater

[Losty]

That's not even close to what I said. The conversation going full circle means you have points, other people gave points, an agreement was not made so you gave the same points, the same rebuttals were made...still no agreement. Rinse wash repeat. We don't agree on the matter (though I think your views and mine are very very close on this subject) no amount of repeating the same arguments back and forth at each other over and over will change that. Stalemate. And so begins jokes because I got tired of watching the paint on my argument dry after I made it for the 3rd time.

Again, I reiterate that Paul didn't actually say that white privilege doesn't exist, quite the contrary in fact. However, the fact that he took that particular position meant that the ida of white privilege could be extended to other races, other religions, other creeds and other countries. Your argument is based solely on your opinion and you weren't able to talk further about the possibility of other races having special privileges. This was your downfall. Nothing against you Losty of course, it is just the way I read it.

My imaginary argument? If you're going to object to my argument then you should quote it. The post you quoted was just me saying the argument has already gone full circle.

[The Grand Nudger]

White people -are- privileged, here in the states..full stop.  You can check that against -any- metric you like.

[paulpablo]

White people -are- privileged, here in the states..full stop.  You can check that against -any- metric you like.

Well that closes down all nuances perspectives of that conversation.

[RobertE]

White people -are- privileged, here in the states..full stop.  You can check that against -any- metric you like.

Well that closes down all nuances perspectives of that conversation.

Well, we have at least found Ken Ham and Eric Hovind here who will not open themselves up to further possibilities. No point arguing with people like that. Aron Ra found that out through experience.

[The Grand Nudger]

There is no "nuance" to counter that simple, quantifiable, and demonstrable fact.  Whatever nuance remains exists within the framework -of- that simple, quantifiable, and demonstrable fact.

[paulpablo]

There is no "nuance" to counter that simple, quantifiable, and demonstrable fact.  Whatever nuance remains exists within the framework -of- that simple, quantifiable, and demonstrable fact.

I was watching a video about phrases and techniques people who are really bad at forming logical arguments and debating use, adding "full stop" at the end of the point your making is another box ticked in the long list of boxes ticked mentioned in that video

[Edwardo Piet]

Are you serious. This thread has gone on for a million pages. You've said nothing but "wah wah white privilege is real but I don't like it because of dictionaries and plus I don't wanna talk about it." And "All privileges matter" and other such bullshit. Also, it's at least the 3rd or 4th thread of this shit. We get it, you don't like talking about white privilege because not every single white person in the world is overly privileged, and also because Asian people have some privilege. Wanka wanka stop blaming white people for racism. What is there left to do but make jokes?

You lost all credibility by going on a rant I'm afraid, whether it is justified or not. If Paul doesn't want to conform to YOUR or anybody else's standards, then that is his right and he has every damn right to express his opinion instead of being shouted down. I mean, what the hell, you want to debate yet you become like Ken Ham and all the others who will not listen to other peoples arguments.

Rant? Shouted down? What the fuck? Someone can't express their own opinions back to someone else without being told they're ranting or "shouting down" now?

My opinion is you're full of shit.

[account_inactive]

There is no "nuance" to counter that simple, quantifiable, and demonstrable fact.  Whatever nuance remains exists within the framework -of- that simple, quantifiable, and demonstrable fact.

I was watching a video about phrases and techniques people who are really bad at forming logical arguments and debating use, adding "full stop" at the end of the point your making is another box ticked in the long list of boxes ticked mentioned in that video

Shots fired!