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RE: The problem with prayer.
July 26, 2016 at 11:28 pm
(July 26, 2016 at 9:05 pm)popsthebuilder Wrote: (July 26, 2016 at 7:51 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: Not a given, but assuming a god exists, and he/she is amenable to prayers, what assurance do we have that god would bother to hear (let alone be favorably disposed by) a prayer from an individual that is a member of any faith other than His/Her True one ??
(16 page thread, sorry I'm not going back and see if anyone else, or, LOL me, has already made that point) In IT's nature and Word.
Merciful, long suffering, giving, compassionate, forgiving, of life, creating
It is the Will of GOD for all to simply have Faith in GOD and as such, in themselves, as GOD's creations, using the conscience and utter inner honesty to not only discern what is truly right, but in all perceivable cases, to act accordingly on such.
A faith and a belief are nothing but empty words without action.
The rest is irrelevant.
Repent not of good.
Repent of negatives(greed, anger, fear, pride (addiction of any sort is also greed).
Of course striving for such is to be the righteous case, as to actually attain to such is not for all at this time.
Peace, with humility.
Faith in selfless Unity for Good.
75,000 denominations, sects, and schisms just in the world of Christianity and we had to wait for you to cough up the One True Faith ??
Jesus Fucking Christ, why we need to wait 2000 years for that ??
The granting of a pardon is an imputation of guilt, and the acceptance a confession of it.
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RE: The problem with prayer.
July 26, 2016 at 11:35 pm
(July 26, 2016 at 11:23 pm)ignoramus Wrote: Is that Lando Calrissian?
No.
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Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni:
"You did WHAT? With WHO? WHERE???"
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RE: The problem with prayer.
July 27, 2016 at 2:52 am
(July 26, 2016 at 4:10 am)Alasdair Ham Wrote: (July 26, 2016 at 3:28 am)Godschild Wrote: You will at judgment and you will be on your knees confessing that Christ truly is Savior and Lord.
GC
Nah.
Yes
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: The problem with prayer.
July 27, 2016 at 3:16 am
3,500 Gods and GC thinks he's onto the right one ...Because it feels nice! Must be real!
I get nice boners looking at nice chicks but it isn't true love! Sorry... It's your natural instincts making you feel secure.
No God, No fear.
Know God, Know fear.
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RE: The problem with prayer.
July 27, 2016 at 3:41 am
(July 26, 2016 at 1:06 pm)Stimbo Wrote: (July 26, 2016 at 3:28 am)Godschild Wrote: You will at judgment and you will be on your knees confessing that Christ truly is Savior and Lord.
GC
With that attitude you will find yourslf in a difficult situation also.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: The problem with prayer.
July 27, 2016 at 3:44 am
(July 26, 2016 at 7:20 am)Irrational Wrote: (July 26, 2016 at 3:28 am)Godschild Wrote: You will at judgment and you will be on your knees confessing that Christ truly is Savior and Lord.
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This is just desperate talk, GC.
No it's not the Bible states that everyone would be on their knees confessing Christ.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: The problem with prayer.
July 27, 2016 at 6:12 am
(July 27, 2016 at 3:16 am)ignoramus Wrote: 3,500 Gods and GC thinks he's onto the right one ...Because it feels nice! Must be real!
I get nice boners looking at nice chicks but it isn't true love! Sorry... It's your natural instincts making you feel secure. There is only one creator GOD. The different names are due to cultural differences and time. All religious writings I have read thus far all describe the same things for the same reasons. And yes, the conscience and instinct do play a part.
Faith in selfless Unity for Good.
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RE: The problem with prayer.
July 27, 2016 at 6:28 am
(July 27, 2016 at 3:41 am)Godschild Wrote: (July 26, 2016 at 1:06 pm)Stimbo Wrote:
With that attitude you will find yourslf in a difficult situation also.
GC
At least I'm not you. I take exceptional comfort in the fact. Self-righteous cunt.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: The problem with prayer.
July 27, 2016 at 6:48 am
(July 26, 2016 at 10:53 pm)bennyboy Wrote: (July 26, 2016 at 10:20 pm)popsthebuilder Wrote: Why would you do anything that doesn't revolve around yourself if you are the center of your focus?
Why would most people do what they know is right regardless of self? For the sake of others, obviously. Again, altruism or the sake of continued existence as a whole comes to mind.
Faith in selfless Unity for Good. 1. instinct
2. social contract
3. learned behaviors
These are the reasons I treat others with general good will. There's no such thing as an instinct for prayer, I have no social contract with God, since He offers me nothing, and I have unlearned the cultural fairy tale that would make me feel guilty if I didn't show up at church and say grace every day before dinner.
Altruism makes sense in evolutionary terms. Wasting time talking to fairy tales does not. I don't believe good will towards other life is a learned behavior. I have no clue what a social contract is. And shame is from the conscience, and has little to do with going to a particular building one day of the week.
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RE: The problem with prayer.
July 27, 2016 at 8:22 am
(This post was last modified: July 27, 2016 at 8:22 am by GrandizerII.)
(July 27, 2016 at 3:44 am)Godschild Wrote: (July 26, 2016 at 7:20 am)Irrational Wrote: This is just desperate talk, GC.
No it's not the Bible states that everyone would be on their knees confessing Christ.
GC
Not the whole Bible, just one or two books in the Bible. And even so, they're books written thousands of years ago by dead people who didn't know any better, GC. They're not words spoken or written to you directly from God.
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