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RE: Another way of looking at depression
August 10, 2016 at 3:15 pm
OK, question for those suffering.
How many times have you been told, or by how many people, to just suck it up? Your problem is imaginary. You are a malingerer. You are using this as manipulation. You could make yourself better if you'd just try.
Although I don't suffer, and don't believe a stitch of what I typed, I've heard these things said many times. It shows how misunderstood depression (actually all mental illness) really is.
Thoughts?
I don't have an anger problem, I have an idiot problem.
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RE: Another way of looking at depression
August 10, 2016 at 3:20 pm
(August 10, 2016 at 3:15 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: OK, question for those suffering.
How many times have you been told, or by how many people, to just suck it up? Your problem is imaginary. You are a malingerer. You are using this as manipulation. You could make yourself better if you'd just try.
By most people I opened up to. I can't remember a single conversation with someone not suffering from the condition understanding what's going on. That's why I turned into a public liar presenting a facade. And that's pretty exhausting. One of the reasons why I'm pretty withdrawn right now. In the literal sense of the word, I'm tired of people.
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RE: Another way of looking at depression
August 10, 2016 at 3:27 pm
(August 10, 2016 at 3:20 pm)abaris Wrote: (August 10, 2016 at 3:15 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: OK, question for those suffering.
How many times have you been told, or by how many people, to just suck it up? Your problem is imaginary. You are a malingerer. You are using this as manipulation. You could make yourself better if you'd just try.
By most people I opened up to. I can't remember a single conversation with someone not suffering from the condition understanding what's going on. That's why I turned into a public liar presenting a facade. And that's pretty exhausting. One of the reasons why I'm pretty withdrawn right now.
Pretty much all this
On the bad days, it gets to a point where I have to excuse myself and go off somewhere to let it out and cool down. It's fine if I'm at home because nobody notices or even questions it anymore, but if I'm out or working it could be a problem.
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RE: Another way of looking at depression
August 10, 2016 at 3:31 pm
(August 10, 2016 at 3:27 pm)Yeauxleaux Wrote: It's fine if I'm at home because nobody notices or even questions it anymore, but if I'm out or working it could be a problem.
Yes, I had one moment at work where a lot of people were talking and suddenly my brain couldn't process anymore. It was frightening, since I was a passenger in my own head, perfectly aware of what was happening but unable to form a clear thought.
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RE: Another way of looking at depression
August 10, 2016 at 3:39 pm
(August 10, 2016 at 3:15 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: OK, question for those suffering.
How many times have you been told, or by how many people, to just suck it up? Your problem is imaginary. You are a malingerer. You are using this as manipulation. You could make yourself better if you'd just try.
Although I don't suffer, and don't believe a stitch of what I typed, I've heard these things said many times. It shows how misunderstood depression (actually all mental illness) really is.
Thoughts?
Too many times to count. Depression is one of those things that you can never understand unless you experience it, but nearly everyone seems to think they can offer advice on it. People seem to believe that the reason they haven't experienced it is because of something they've personally done or that they don't suffer from the same character flaw. Most of the time the advice seems to be well-meaning and not malicious, but when you try to tell the person that it's not that simple, it never seems to sink in.
And like abaris said, the advice just ends up making you feel worse, because it leaves you feeling like no one can understand what you're going through and you're all alone.
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RE: Another way of looking at depression
August 10, 2016 at 4:01 pm
(August 10, 2016 at 3:31 pm)abaris Wrote: (August 10, 2016 at 3:27 pm)Yeauxleaux Wrote: It's fine if I'm at home because nobody notices or even questions it anymore, but if I'm out or working it could be a problem.
Yes, I had one moment at work where a lot of people were talking and suddenly my brain couldn't process anymore. It was frightening, since I was a passenger in my own head, perfectly aware of what was happening but unable to form a clear thought.
Oh yeah, I know that sensation well. I don't know about you, but to me it feels like all the noise is just overwhelming my brain and getting right in my ears, and I often feel like shouting when that happens. I get snappy and irritable, which I don't like because that's not usually me.
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RE: Another way of looking at depression
August 10, 2016 at 4:04 pm
(August 10, 2016 at 4:01 pm)Yeauxleaux Wrote: Oh yeah, I know that sensation well. I don't know about you, but to me it feels like all the noise is just overwhelming my brain and getting right in my ears, and I often feel like shouting when that happens. I get snappy and irritable, which I don't like because that's not usually me.
For me it was a profound feeling of emptiness. I can't even describe it, but it was like being unable to form a thought while being perfectly aware of that. I was a passenger in my own head and that's what made it so frightening.
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RE: Another way of looking at depression
August 10, 2016 at 4:21 pm
(August 10, 2016 at 3:15 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: OK, question for those suffering.
How many times have you been told, or by how many people, to just suck it up? Your problem is imaginary. You are a malingerer. You are using this as manipulation. You could make yourself better if you'd just try.
Although I don't suffer, and don't believe a stitch of what I typed, I've heard these things said many times. It shows how misunderstood depression (actually all mental illness) really is.
Thoughts?
Many, many times. Even by medical professionals sometimes. It's infuriating.
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RE: Another way of looking at depression
August 10, 2016 at 4:38 pm
Yes, I was hit by a bad bout of depression a few weeks ago.
I realised I needed to talk to someone when I was crossing the road and suddenly thought, "If I just stop now one of the oncoming cars will fix it."
It seriously surprised me. I thought I've been in a pretty good place recently.
Always get help. Not necessarily from a shrink. Talking to family or friends can be a big help.
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RE: Another way of looking at depression
August 10, 2016 at 4:40 pm
(August 10, 2016 at 4:38 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: Talking to family or friends can be a big help.
Might help sometimes, but not in my experience. My brother is totally immune to understanding any of it. We're close, always were, but I gave up on trying to make him understand my condition.
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